Wednesday, April 24, 2013

Episode 244 Discussion: 12th April 2013

Hostage Drama continues. Crazy RK add another hostage, his mother to his emotional Atyachaar list, impresses Audience with superb Dialogue-baazi against his mother and Bhabhi, but fails to impress Madhubala

Events of the Episode
  1. The episode is high on dialogues. Must watch episode.
  2. Radhaji had come from outside and has got to know about all the crazy kidnapping drama that RK enacted. Though happy that Madhu is back in the mansion, but Radhaji seeing from a woman's standpoint is not okay with abduction and forceful detention of Madhu. She asks MAdhu to leave. However Rishabh Kundra, with another round knife-wielding drama and threatening to kill himself (by cutting his wrist), makes the two women dear to him, agree to his plan...that of Madhu staying back at RK Mansion.
  3. Madhu walks to their room. Sees all nooks and corners of the room rekindling memories. She opens her cupboard and sees her dupatta hanging out. As she is lost in memory, RK comes to tell her how he looks at it to feel her presence. Madhu is reminded that she needs to get disgusted of him. 
  4. As RK spews some more dialogues on his methods of loving Madhu, Madhu answers him that she must be a strange person for trusting and loving a man who cannot be trusted or loved. 
  5. RK maneuvers her to answer his second question, if she loves him only. Madhu unwillingly under duress tells him so that she loves him only as he has left her incaplable living and loving anyone else. RK in a deranged trance like state is happy to hear that Madhu loves him only and blocks himself out from hearing the rest of her painful part of inability to love anyone else. Madhu is totally disgusted at him and avoids to interact with him and craziness. 
  6. The servant comes to give food for Madhu. Dipali is eavesdropping at RK-Madhu door. She is unable to hear anything. Inside RK is trying his level best to make Madhu eat food. She is being stubborn not to eat. RK frustrated gets up to go out, opens the door, SPLAT!! Dips falls onto the floor. Hilarious scene and hilarious dialogues. Madhu gets up to see what is the commotion about, but she doesn't laugh at the scene like audience laughs.
  7. RK goes and calls for his mother and complains to her that Madhu is not eating. Radhaji turns to Madhu. Episode ends.

Episode Reviews

Myself

OMG!!!! What was that Dipali Scene and those dialogues of Tumhare paas Tumhaari Zid, Par Mere Paas Ab Bhi Meri Maa Hai

Dips falling down, DHAAD!! I was remembering B&W movie Vamps where Bhabhi's , Jhethani's Devrani's keep eavesdropping like that...
ROFL

Wow!!!!

Seema Mishra 
VD-DD-SD (combo)

I am going to watch the episode second time And I will see if I can write anything at all.  It was just fultoo appealing drama.  And I was really like Madhu, flummoxed, entertained and thinking how can I get away from there. It was just difficult as each second passed.  Just like Madhu.

Ajayabhghar ke Ajeeb Namoone
(The Museum of the Oddities)

Here are the Oddites and the twisted dialogues.
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  • Rishabh Kundra and his Mother Radhaji as his wife Madhubala looks on- Hallway

Rishabh Kundra : Kamaal Hai!! Aaj yeh saabit ho gaya ki Aap RK ki Maa Ho. MAIN aapko Kumbh ke Mele se Nahin laaya HoonKyonki aisi ajeebo garib kaarnama toh RK ki Maa hi kar sakti hai. Usually Saas Bahu ka swaagat karti hain. Aap apni Bahu ko Bhagaa rahin hai ?!!!

Me:  Usually people will say : Kamaal Hai!! Aaj yeh saabit ho gaya ki Main aaphi kaa Beta Hoon. AAP Mujhe Kumbh ke Mele Main se Nahin utha laaye.  Self-Important.  He was also answering, Radhaji's words to the servant, "Agar Main Nahin chaahti  Tumhaare Chief Is duniua mein Nahin Aata."

Radhaji : Ajeeb Saas bhi hoon aur Ajeeb Maa bhi Hoon;  jo apne bete ke harkaton par garva karne ke bajaya aaj sharminda ho rahi hai. Jab ek beta apni patni ke prati apna dharm aur farz bhool jaata hai na, saas ko bhi apna farz chod kar, ek aurat aur ek maa hone ka dharm nibhaane ke liye majboor hona padta hai. Samjhaa!

Rishabh Kundra : Biwi - Tussi jaa rahi Ho. Tussi Na jaao. Kyonki agar tum chali gayi toh !!...Abhi toh yeh chaaku hatheli par chala hai, par ab kalaayi ki nas par chalega

Radhaji: Nahi Rishu. Tu Aisa kuch bhi nahin kar sakta. Kya kar Kya raha hai. nahin Rishu

Rishabh Kundra :  Maa Sharminda ho jaTera beta bahut Bada Paagal Hai.

Me: What a haazir-jawaab and adds one or two extra for the punch and kicks.
Radhaji:  Maine Tujhe zindagi di hai. Tu aisa nahin kar sakta

Rishabh Kundra : Kamaal Hai!! Meri Zindagi ki sabse keemti aurten mere saamne khadi hain.Ek jisne mujhe zindagi di hai aur doosro jo meri zindagi lene ke liye tadap rahi hai.  Biwi, Maa dono khadi, Kiski baat manvaaye.  Balihaari  hoon tumhaara, Maiyaa dhiyoo bataye. 
Biwi Tum mujhe Bahut achi tarah se jaanti ho. Phaisla tumhaara hai.. All yours kya karna hai

Radhaji : Nahin Rishu.Tujhe aise kuch bhi nahin karne doongi. Madhu tum chali jaaon yahaan se

Rishabh Kundra : Maa tu mujhe janam dekar bhi samajh nahin paayi, par meri Biwi mujhe bahut acchi tarah se  samajhti, chaahti hai, pyaar karti hai mujhse. Haina Biwi. Phaisla tumhaare Haat mein hai.

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  • Rishabh Kundra and his wife Madhubala

Rishabh Kundra : Dhyaan se dekh lo ...Tum tak  nahin pahunch sakta tha, ise se kaam chalaaya...blah blah blah...LOL
Biwi : No Response
Rishabh Kundra : Itni Pareshaan na ho ...Main Hoo Na...blah blah blah LOL
Biwi: No Response

Madhubala:  Kitni Ajeeb Hoon Main, Jis par bharosa nahin karna chaahiye, uski har baat  pe main bharosa kiya.  Tum jitne ajeeb, tum jitne tedhe, aur tum jitne dhokebaaz Ho Na, shaayed mujhe bhi utna hi hona chaahiye tha, tumse pyaar karne ke liye

Rishabh Kundra : Repeat telecast. Golden words ka repeat telecast. I love you ka repeat telecast ...Sirf mujh se ....Desperation kicks in....

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  • Rishabh Kundra and his wife Madhubala as his Bhabhi Dipali eavesdrop on them

Rishabh Kundra : Biwi agar dieting karogi toh fighting kaise karogi

Rishabh Kundra : Yeh haddiyon ki plate darwaaze pe kya kar rahi thi.  Dekho Biwi, sab tumse kitna pyaar karte hain. Poori koshish kar rahen hain, sabkuch pahle jaisa ho jaaye. Dipali Bhaabhi chup chup kar, hamesha ki tarah, hamaari baaten sun rahi thi

Me:  ROFL Even he could smile.  Only Madhu did not smile.  I feel ashamed of myself, but I cannot stop myself from laughing. Madhu how could you control it ?!!!!  Its bathos and pathos as well.  Ludicrous situation and the pathos is, that's its him actually who is trying his best to make it as before.

Rishabh Kundra : jis par tave pe dosa flat ho jaata , theekh is tarah, yeh hamaare room ke floor pe FLAT ho gayi hain

Me:  ROFL 

Rishabh Kundra : Isi ko to Family Bonding  kehte hain Biwi. How Sweet !!! 

Me:  Still can't stop laughing. 

Rishabh Kundra :Biwi isse aur kuch kahoon ya ...

Rishabh Kundra : Dipali Bhaabhi ...Ek Last hai...bahut accha wala tha..Sunti Jaao...Are sunti jao..achcha waala hai 

Me:  Still can't stop laughing. 
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  • Rishabh Kundra and his wife Madhubala with - DEEWAR Dialogue

Rishabh Kundra : Madhubala Rishabh Kundra !. Aaj tumhaare paas Zid hai, Akkad Hai, Gussa Hai, Attitude hai,PAR, aaj bhi mere paas Maa hai

Me:  ROFL Usually - RK has those attributes
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  • Rishabh Kundra and his Mother Radhaji as his wife Madhubala - in his room

Radhaji kya baat hai
Rishabh Kundra :Chalo na maa
Radhaji : Mujhe batao na rishu

Rishabh Kundra : yeh...aapki bahu khaana nahin kha rahi hai. Maine poore pyaar aur tameez se ise khilaane ki koshish ki. Par kya karen, aapki Bahu ko is kameene ki koi kadr hi nahin hai 

Radhaji : Madhu kya hua, sabkuch theekh hai na? Main samajh sakti hoon tujh par kya beet rahi hai
Rishabh Kundra : Kya beet rahi maa, AC bahut tez chal raha hai, Sabkuch to theekh hai Maa. Meri Biwi mere paas laut aayi hai

Me:  Eureka, I got it !!!  Dancing Theekh in RK's dictionary is "Meri Biwi mere paas laut aayi hai"

Radhaji : Tune mujhe yahaan bulaaya, agar tu chup baithega, toh main aage baat kar paoongi

Rishabh Kundra : RK ko sirf RK ki Maa chup kara sakti hai

Me:  RK ko sirf RK ki Maa chup kara sakti hai...kyonki RK ki Maa Ajeeb hai aur uski tarah aur woh Kumbh ke mele se nahin utha le aaya.     RK ko sirf RK ki Biwi samajh sakti hai...kyoki Madhu Ajeeb hain and RK jitna ajeeb, tedha, aur dhokebaaz se pyaar kiya.  RK ko RK hi Bhabhi hi entertain kar sakti hai ...kyonki Dipali Bhabhi RK is tarah kameeni, badtameez hai, ho sabki khushi main hi apni khushi dhoondti hai ROFL

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Screen time distribution
  • Madhu - Radhaji - 2.02 min
  • MB -Rji -RK  - 3.25 mins
  • RK - MB  - 6.52 mins
  • Dips-Servant - 58 seconds
  • Dips -RK -MB - 2.51 mins
  • RK - MB - 51 seconds
  • RK-Rji- MB - 2.06 mins

Total episode airtime minus precap - 19:05 mins

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Episode was DIALOGUES KA DUKAAN

Emotionally, it came across, interim stabilizing...like taking a break ...Waiting.

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Other character I liked in the Episode.

Patil/whoever it is...I like his face. Cute.


EvIlNeSs_RoCkZ
This is Kabir ji's Origional Doha -
"Guru Govind dou khade... Kake laagun paaye
Balihari Guru aapki... Govind diyo milaye"
(Meaning for those who didnt understand lol!!  - if ur Guru (that is ur teacher) and ur Govind (that is ur God) both standing in front of u, then whose feet u will touch first?...According to Kabir ji, u shud touch Guru's feet first bcoz its bcoz he is the one who showed u the path to meet God)
Now RK's version of Kabir's Doha -
"Biwi Maa dono khadi.. Kiski baat manwaye

Balihari hun Biwi tumhara.. Maiyya diyo bataye"

vd_rocks

rk: tum sirf mujhse pyaar karti ho?

madhu: kyun pooch rahe ho?

rk: hum saans kyun lete hain?

madhu:jeene ke liye!

rk: SAME PINCH! 

madhu: BAKWAAS! 

classic kid fight!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!! ROFL
today's episode again proved it dat he is cute!!!
i m luving it!! (clapping)

as far as what he is doin????!!!..here it is...!
        
ques--what does a kid do when he wants to run from his mistake??
ans----exactly! does funny things to change the focus n seriousness of crime! till he gathers guts!

ques---what does a kid do when he cant handle it??
ans---he calls his mom!

Responded by Red_Opium
Shri, you finally got your wish and Radha was to the rescue Smile.  She did make him shut up for few miserable seconds ROFL.. Great summarization of the episode, enjoyed very much reading your inner thoughts.  By the way loved the new adjective added to RK's long list of character attributes: Haazir-Jawaab
@Patil's picture:  Today, I would've traded places with him without any hesitation; my own front seat to witness all this drama.. These helpers' lives seem far more interesting than anyone else LOL'
Responded by me
Zoe,

@bold. These were my parallel inner thoughts.

The way I see the whole drama since Wednesday is that this is a HOSTAGE Drama. I had felt that RK has lost it the moment he kidnapped Madhu. I panicked the moment when RK showed his panic stricken face at Madhu running away from him and RK Mansion. From that time onwards it was Hostage Drama Crisis to me. As a kidnapper, what is RK's RANSOM ? His ransom is, "Madhu, Tell me you love me. Tell me YOU love ME ONLY"  How is he placing his RANSOM Demand Calls. He is threatening injuries to himself. He made one attempt already and the hostage is subdued now. She got the message.  

There was an attempt at rescuing of the Hostage by Radhaji, but RK turned even her into a Hostage. He has been able to smartly deliver his Ransom Demand calls.

How is it all this going to end ? Definitely not in an easy manner. I suppose RK is not foolish to think that his BandBaaja Style Musical Grihapravesh Entry for his Wife, or that blood-mired foot-printing is going to make her think, she can permanently stay there. How is Madhu going to answer Padmini ? What does RK have for that in his kitty? Did he plan something ? or because he knows convincing Padmini (aka Society) is nigh impossible, he wants to keep on making repeated ransom calls to Madhu and make her present him his Ransom...that of 1) I Love You 2) I Love you Only.  Is RK from his deranged mind thinking, this is the only way to have Madhu back...coerce her into seeing things as they were before, making her keep saying that she loves him, so that by the end of n number of times, she might feel the truth of it and she will then convince Padmini or society as to why she is back with RK.

Anyways...coming back to where I am.

I need a NEGOTIATOR. Where is the negotiator ? Who is it going to be ?

I would have liked Radhaji to be a negotiator. But since ST& Crew, want to prolong the drama, they have turned Radhaji into a hostage, though they made her a RESCUER whose HELP was not used by Madhu.  Madhu had a big fat chance to escape today. She was near the door and she could have run like a rabbit. But Nope ! She turned back at Almighty Rishabh Kundra's ringing voice of "Kamaal Hai" and slowly turned back. So What do we have hereQuestion  ST & Crew do not want her to flee. They want to remain as a hostage until stipulated time.Approve

But if you ask me, she has the capacity to become a negotiator now. Question is will she want to become the negotiator ? If I was in her place, I would slowly start turning myself into a negotiator from a Hostage. Yes, time has come for me to go for manipulative talk, or manuvering talk to get me out of that place.

One thing is for sure, througout this drama, like IMM (i-me-myself) said in her review, Madhubala is being made to express her pain through the Ransom calls being made by Rishabh Kundra. She is venting out her pain before the source/cause itself. By the end of this hostage drama, MAdhu will be on the upside of things, as she will be partly relieved, unburdened, answered and resolved about what she wants to do and where she wants to go. So good for her.

Where is Rishabh headed to ? Ofcourse to release her. He is a kidnapper. He needs to release Madhu at some point. Do I have a definite information on this ? Hell !! NO !. I don't know what ST&Crew have designed for us.

Wednesday, I was upset as it was my panic stage. Thursday was drama. Friday/today was entertainment for me and Waiting Period. Today I was reminded of the movie "The Negotiator" where the Kidnapper and some of the Hostages were bonding and becoming friends by talking to each other about their issues, where the kidnapper trusts couple of the hostages to keep a watch on the other. That was Rishabh Kundra was doing...making Radhaji take care of Madhu.

I was also remembering another Hindi Movie "36 Ghante"  - Mala Sinha, Raaj Kumar, Sunil Dutt, Danny Denzonpa and Ranjeet starring movie. It was a Hindi Hostage situation movie, based on English movie "Desperate Hours".

I am sure the Hostage Drama will end on a good resolving note for both The Kidnapper-RK and The Hostage-MB

RK's Father's teaching to overlook Pain

I said on Wednesday episode, that Rishabh Kundra needs to be tied up and made to CRY.

Fine he took revenge. But in the process he got hurt too and it pains him. So he just needs to cry and let go his pain for the hurt he feels.  Instead of crying himself out (whichever way a grown-up man can take it out...I do see glistening tears in Rishabh Kundra's eyes...Men's tear ducts are big...so those glistening tears are actually a lot ...jokes apart, I am talking of heart-fills cry), why did Rishabh Kundra resort to bringing back Madhu to his home to be with him?

As I was really thinking hard on his characterization in the serial and as I was speculating (in my imagination) an emotional scene between Madhu and RK, where in heights, Radhaji has to intervene, I added this dialogue to Radhaji...where she will utter, "wish your father was here to soothe you from your pain".  BAM !!! This is where, like a flash, I remembered how RK narrated to Madhu his story of his father, how HIS FATHER  taught him TO NOT CRY, NOT FOCUS ON HURT/INJURY and just think about something else so that pain is forgotten.  He was explaining all this to Madhu, when back from hospital, she starts crying to release her emotion at all the stress she had been through of seeing him shot/supposed death/and assault.  

Did he really start planning revenge at that time ? Or he just narrated the story like that ? I don't think he would have lied about his father's teachings. Because even when RK gets reconciled to his mother, in the temple, he tells her, he never went to her for lullaby again as he stopped crying.
So is this the case...that he has made a principle to look away from injury/hurt and not cry over that. Instead divert the attention to something else ? Question Would CVs still remember that they showed this in the Drama before ? QuestionErmm

Responded by Red_Opium
Lovely and insightful reviews everyone, I really enjoyed reading them Smile.  Today's episode felt like aftershock(s) of the main event which took place yesterday; nevertheless, it was still entertaining.  I saw the strong sense of desperation in each character today; RK desperately holding on tight to state of pretense while chasing Madhu with "love me only question", Madhu desperately trying to escape RK, pervious memories, constant questions, and his so called jungle, Radha desperately wanting to make things better between the two love birds, and Dipali desperately becoming Ms. Buttinsky as she was back during the good old days Dead.  Today made me think about how long could RK survive in such a stage Confused?  Reality does catch up with everyone at some point.

Originally posted by supercool3
I LOVE how Dipali just fell down! LOL And RK grabs the opportunity to BBB her. But this time, it was more like he wanted to make Madhu smile. Otherwise, I feel he wouldn't of even cared for Dipali.

Throughout the episode I was pretty calm and balanced. On one side I was feeling for Madhu, and on the other I was amused by RK's antics. So neither emotion took over me LOL
But what really cracked me up was RK's dialogue to Madhu after Dipali left ... "Aaj tumhara paas zid hai, akkad hai, gussa hai, attitude hai ... par aaj bhi mere paas MAA hai" LOL The look of triumphant on his face was hilarious. I'm glad Madhu remained indifferent though LOL

And last but not least, I'm curious to see where all this is headed LOL


Responded by myself
Supercool, 
This is how I felt today after watching the episode. Entertained, Neutralized and Apprehensively Waiting.

Responded by Red_Opium
Dear Shri, loved your hostage comparison it was written outstandingly Clap !  I think if Madhu and Radha worked together, they might get some resolution.  Anyhow, your post made me question Sultan's involvement in this scenario, will he be playing any role? I hope he is not the heroic agent -that is in charge - outside of the building, I wouldn't like that at all... I love how ended your comment, a good ending for both Madhu and RK, gives me hope, after all I'm a Rishbala fan...
@RK honoring his father's advice that has trapped him in a harmful cycle of overlooking pain - this post is just genius Hug..

Syl's Pictorial Commentary
Originally posted by undisclosed



MM's Fun Corner 
Dramebaaz Dhokebaaz Dagabaaz Devil's Dhamakedar Dialogue baazi is the highlight of today's episode.

A page from RK's diary -
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RK's To Do for the day - Mission Madhu ko Manao.


Task Name                                                         Additional comments
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Bring Madhu to RK mansion                      Had to apply force but she is here 
                                                                           now. So task done.
Make Madhu confess that she loves me    Dun dunna dun dun 
                                                                           (YOOHOOO !!!)
Madhu Gruhpravesh                                      Done, done and done
                                                                            (mere lahu se, no less)
Force Madhu to stay put in RK mansion   Achieved
                                                                            (with stupendous success)
Make Madhu talk to RK                                 Work In Progress but am getting 
                                                                             there.
Make Madhu eat                                             Failed at first but apni Ma ke 
                                                                               sahare I made it possible.



As long as you love only ME, I am ready to listen whatever that is coming out of your mouth. I am so glad that I am succeeding in the mission of making you talk to me. Even though what you have to say is painful, devastating and difficult for you to say and me to hear,  it is still music to my ears because you are talking to me.It does not matter whether you are praising me or cursing me.  You are talking to me and that is all that matters. I will come up with the most ludicrous dialogues if I have to, as long as you stay here with me, talk to me, tell me YOU LOVE ONLY ME. 



kaho ki mein hi tumhare din ki shurwat hun aur mein hi tumhari raat ka aant. Tumhari aankhon mein, saanson mein, yaadon mein, khwabon mein bas mein hi mein hu, aur dusra koi nahi.



I have this desperate need of keeping you around me all the time. It is the only thing that will keep me alive. You are one of the most important people (besides Maa) to me and I have to hold on tight to you,not allow to let you go. 



I am an actor and I only know how to do drama. I will do it if it takes you to stay here with me. If my revenge was a big drama, I will do even bigger drama than that to reverse it and keep you here, with me, always.





A page from Madhu's diary
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My day started with the plan to be at Shirdi with Maa and Didu by night fall. Not in my wildest dreams did I think that I will find myself in the house from where I was once driven away insulted, mortified, stripped off of dignity. I wish I had the physical strength to overpower RK for once. I find myself here, against my wish, bullied into confessing which my mind and heart is strongly protesting not to utter. I am ashamed of myself and disgusted beyond anything with RK. How did I ever fall in love with this devil who still makes me listen to him, who still holds power over my  thoughts, actions and feelings. Am I a pathetic person with no strong will to face it? I thought I was making progress.
He has the gall to ask if there is anyone else in my life. How can I love anyone else ever in my life, RK? You have taken away my ability to ever trust, love and cherish any other living breathing soul as long as I live. I am a dead woman  walking with the burden of your love that still resides inside me. I want to unburden myself of that weight but  it is running deep in my veins.
I can see RK is trying to make me talk to him. But I will not. I will stay silent, not respond to anything. Neither his dialogues (which he is so proud to deliver at any given moment), not to his references to Mr. India or anything else. I have seen your real face, Mr. Rishabh Kundra and it is very ugly. I will not be swayed back into your magic that you so confidently weave around me. Bappa, please give me strength to face this devil. Ab aap ke hi sahare muze balveer banne ki ummid hai.

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