Episode 165 Discussion: 9th Jan 2013

The Padmini-Shamsher wedding preparations and BSC Productions begin !

Episode 165 Discussion: 9th Jan 2013

Events of the Episode

1. Balraj convinces Trishna to do the film for his maiden production. He is able to keep his promise goven to Bittuji and RK.
2. Trishna signs the contract to act in Balraj's film to pursue her dreams of becoming the Heroine in a movie. She is banking on the fact that Balraj doesn't know her and she is trying to control her fear. Balraj advances her the money and she gets the briefcase home.
3. Balraj goes to RK Mansion to inform RK that work assigned to him (to get Trishna sign the contract) is accomplished. He gets a lot of condiment boxes. And instead of RK, he ends up meeting Madhu. All his urges to kill her supercede his common sense and he contemplates how to kill her. He breaks glasses and while Madhu is on phone, proceeds to attack her...but fails as Madhu turns around. To cover his intentions, he hurts his hand with the broken glass.
4. Madhu provides him first aid. She bandages his cut hand. And Balraj keeps addressing her as his daughter and that he shall return her favor one day...But of course he means to kill her one day !
5. The wedding preparations for Padmini and Shamsher are going on in full swing with Roma and Madhu spearheading the arrangements. Roma and Padmini see a disturbed Trishna coming home and unable to put her heart into things around her. As she leaves to Roma's apt, Roma follows her out on seeing the mysterious briefcase and perturbed and avoiding Trishna...Episode ends.

Episode Reviews

By Zorica

My take

The Padmini-Shamsher wedding preparations and BSC Movie Production begin !

Father and daughters !! 

Trishna

I liked Trishna's guts to sign for the film; to follow through her dreams of becoming a heroine of a movie. Don't all  actors ask for one break? Any kind of break from whomsoever it is..they just go for it. Inspite of that opportunity taken, there is no guarantee that, one will get the success or not. Nevertheless, opportunity is what leads to that path of success or failure.

For Trishna who is past her prime age, she is definitely 26 or 27 considering that MB is 22; this opportunity, she cannot waste it. She decided to take the risk. She is shit scared and yet she took the plunge.

Balraj -Trishna

Balraj, kept remembering the Trishna, his young daughter of yesteryears when she used to entertain him as his game and today he yet again uses the same bait that attracts her...her dreams and aspirations...like when young, she was attracted to game and adventure.

1. Would Balraj have left alone Trishna or let her leave the premises in right shape had she not signed the contract ?
2. Did Trishna feel that she won't be able to leave the premises of BSC until she signs the contract ? After all she is first hand oppressed person at the hands of BSC. Even this girl has not psychologically come out of the shocking and fearful grip of her father and had never learned to say NO and just allow him to do whatever he pleases with her. Isn't she habitual to that ?
3. And to give her credit, she visited BSC, because he threatened to come to the chawl, which we the viewers know that he would not have gone there to keep his cover !

The CVs are just taking advantage of Trishna characteristic traits of jealousy, insecurity and her dreams in running the track now...but they should also keep on focussing on her underlying fears and shocking state she goes into when she sees her biological father. And one thing she definitely carries in blood from her father and her biological mother...stamina to withstand ...and needed courage to go on...This has been vouched by Balraj himself and Daiima.  

CVs should not completely ruin Trishna character like filler material. Already this morning segments SBB/ABP/E24/IBN...whichever one it was...they made fun of the fact that Trishna was given just one dialogue and Shamsher inspite of being the Stuntsman was made to be helpless...

Balraj

If Trishna was one focus today, the other focus was Balraj himself. The man is now devoted to his mission. But honestly I did not get why he made Trishna sign the contract. Was it to keep RK all calm and not personally monitor him and his activities. Seems so because he has no choice. Bittuji forced him the other day to convince Trishna to act in his film. So he can still maintain his cover of being the novice producer in the town. But Balraj's rage at seeing Madhu in RK mansion was just too much. The psychotic guy starts anywhere, forgetting the plan. What would he have achieved killing MB there in her mansion, when clearly knows there are people at her disposal. Sigh! The maniac in him just can't wait to be done with his Vinashbala...and the maniacal creative urges of the CVs do not stop at showing unreasonable attacks.

Madhu -Balraj

All his dialogues with MB had double meaning and clearly MB did not like all that and yet true to her character, she couldn't stop bandaging the injured hand of the loathsome and fearful man in front of her.

The other Ops

And RK blurted out just Chaudhri name before MB!  When is he gonna utter Balraj!! 

Well not before all that SBS/E24/IBN7/ABP hungama trailers released today.

The wedding preparations are going on for Padmini and Shamsher's marriage. Roma and MB have started the wedding arrangements and Trishna is roaming around in panic at the decision she has made. In precap, we see her nervousness getting the better of her and she blurts out that she has been offerred a movie by Balraj Chaudhri to Roma. And ofcourse Padmini and Shamsher overhear that. Let's wait for tomorrow to know what happens then...

Well the episode was good in dramatic content except Balraj thinking of attacking MB at her own home. I was not bored and I could feel the chaos of people arranging for wedding and still everyone going about his duties to his best mind and capability. Like Trishna trying to think that she can take advantage of Balraj..she just dreams...but why should one not dream ?!!  Will give a B rating.

By Zoya

Today's episode was good with Balraj being a man on a mission. 

The prominent scenes wer Balraj-Trishna and Balraj-Madhu

Trishna: It was an "Aar ya paar" situation for her and she made her decision that belies her true nature. Her dreams/aspirations hold the highest regard for her and this nature overcame her fear for Balraj and her love for her Mom. The scene with her alter-ego's was good. She was not wanting to work with this maniac but her alter-egos reminded her about her dreams, this being her last chance to make it big, and most importantly " thoda risk,thodi keemat and thodi si himmat apne sapnon ko poora karne ke liye".. I don't blame Trishna for what she did today. Everyone likes to fulfill their dreams and if it is a take it or leave it situation, then for a person who has Trish's nature  would surely take it rather than regretting later on...

And another important thing that I have noticed in this show is that one character's nature or reaction or decision in a particular situation becomes antagonistic to one or many other characters in the show... This is what drives the story and brings the much-needed spice and drama..

Trishna has still not come out of the state she is in, after getting the signing amount, that she quite does not know what exactly to tell her family. Trishna was quite good in the entire length of the scene.

But I didn't undertsand clearly as to why Balraj offered Trish the movie contract? He plans to finish Pads and Madhu on Pads D-day right, then is he planning to go ahead and complete the movie with Trish, amass the profit,assuming the movie runs well? And he offers her 20 lacs as signing amount which implies supposedly a big-budget movie but he has only 3 cr. Where will he get the rest of the money to finanace? I knoe bohut door ki baat hai but still couldn't help thinking..

Balraj-Madhu scene: This man is really a total maniac only. He comes to RK mansion with an excuse of  giving sweets to prolly gather info on Madhu and the house but the moment he comes across a weapon that could potentially harm Madhu, he seizes the opportunity without thinking about anything...At the last moment, he hurts himself with the broken glass and Madhu true to her nature, nursegiri karne lag gayi, despite not getting good vibes. 

In the end, RK ka darshan bhi mil gaya. He utters why Chaudhry came home...Why didn't Madhu's mind even register, ki it's a jaana pehchana name.  When we suddenly hear a name we know, we automatically remember that person, though thousands could be having the same name, and then we  think that it might or might not be the one we are thinking about right?

Precap: Is Trish contempleting on what to tell her family and it's actually her dream? Kal dekhte hain

Originally posted by dramacrazy12 on Trishna and Balraj

An average episode...I was somehow left very dissatisfied today after the high of yesterday.

 (Padmini taking off symbols of her abusive marraige and crying with relief in Madhu's arms was one of the best shot scenes of the show)

I have two complaints...

1) Why did they just focus on Trishna's ambitions? Why did they not show that Trishna reasons for signing the contract included avoiding  Balraj's presence at chawl, her fear of Balraj or for the first time she felt she could do something for her stepmother and foster father.I am not sure if this was an oversight or by design. If it was oversight, they practically made Trishna one dimensional and ripped her character apart. If it was by design ...it is safe to say that Trishna is going to play a very grey character in future and will probably end up becoming the next antogonist.

2)Can they please make up thier mind on how they want to potray Ballu. In his current avatar, he seems more comic than manic to me. I remember Nana Patekar in Parinda...his transition from a very calm collected person to crazy manic was amazing. The transition between Ballu's craziness and his smartness should be fluid...that is what generates the fear factor. It would also be good to show a monologue that explains the reason for offering the contract to Trishna. If it was to harm RK eventually then the contract between RK and Ballu should have had some material commitments from RK's end but it was my understanding that RK had no financial or other risk in this movie.

Responded by SD

Quoting just Puja...but I am answering collectively to Puja, Ananya, Zoya and MM

I too had those two same issues and hence my B rating. I mentioned the dissatisfaction in a rambling manner. 

For me...the problem is with Trishna's fear factor not given weightage at all over her dreams and so I summed up that in another post...I mean they showed her fear in her stumble...and in the scene of Balraj as well...but at least one alter-ego  of hers should have voiced out her helplessness that if she doesn't sign the contract, her father will gobble up her...that kind of fear from one of her conscience image should have been presented.

And yes why Balraj is making Trishna sign the contract now...we all know its a futile exercise for him...but then, he cannot backtrack without raising doubts...so he will play along with RK and Bittuji. 20 lacs donation should have been too much to lose...hope he knows how to recover it...after killing drama. If he was just having Pads and Mads killed and he was not caught, then he could still have used Trishna as Cash Cow...but instead he is just being a mad man with no plan at all...so IMO just biding his time...

And honestly, the man is just a maniac wasting money like wastrels...like the bigdi hui aulaad of feudal system. He is not using his brain in organized manner and uses only in random/spontaneous manner. And being comic...he was comic in the beginning as well...like saying Wrong Number to his men in Mumbai, when they call him to present the status update over phone...because they were failing in Padmini Hunt exercise. His mother was beating her head at his idiocy...They are trying to show a man who has lost touch to ground reality and hence does not know when to be comic, maniac, fearful...he is just a whimsical guy whose support system was his mother. And IMO a crazy man like him can be comical also. It just shows his childish state of mind...that his mother allowed him to be in...result of excessive pampering and not making him responsible instead.

Originally posted by zoya_naziya

The way I saw the Balraj-Trishna scene goes this way.

Ballu tells her that you are standing at the door of your stardom and leaves her to decide if she wants to leave or enter. Trishna though was eyeing her ticket to stardom,knows that she should not accept this man's offer. She knows this man will wreak havoc. She does not go towards the paper but she goes by the side of the table when one of  her alter-ego says "bewakoof ho tum trishna, tere sapne tere saamne hai aur tu..." She was not contemplating there whether to take it or leave it. She knows she should not take it but the alter-egos start influencing her to think of her dreams and dreams only. There was no question of alter-egos reminding her about Ballu or her mom. And finally her ambitions takes precedence and then she moves towards the paper to sign it. 

Responded by SD

Zoya,

Just went back to read your weekend post on this. Actually this morning I was remembering Hima when I watched the episode and I was saying to myself...Hima was right.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3378670&TPN=6

You were addressing mine and Hima's musings on Trishna. So you got yours. To the hilt !

yaar...lekin...I am still not convinced...I needed that human fear to be present in her. Its not possible that fear does not take control of you. Its human psychology. Until one says NO...we are conditioned to say YES to Authority and for Trishna; Balraj is an authority. So a bit of that fear should also be shown.

Though I am willing to concede that Trishna's body is now consumed by fear as she is stumbling and lost and scared...but her mind is possessed by her dreams. Could be the case of her Conscious going after dreams and her Subconscious still experiencing Fear.

By Zoya on Balraj

The Balraj we see today, is not the man we saw him 22 years back. And we should not expect to see the same old man too. 

The man 22 years back was a young powerful ruler, tyrant ,a  man who considered himself God, in his Motihari. Over the years, he lost his jawani and wealth, with that he lost the power and the aura. And his Amma ka aanchal bhi chut gaya, the Amma who was the pillar of his strength and the woman who pushed him to be the evil maniac sending chills down the spine of the viewers and his subjects.

Today, we see a man who has been defeated by fate /destiny/ circumstances but still the man is trying to hold up his pride/shaan. The reason why he is not succumbing is because it's just not in his Chaudhary blood to accept his defeat and humble himself. He is a man defeated by circumstances but  still not defeated in spirit." His paagalpan, junoon, himmat, akad, zid ,ghamand, self-esteem,perseverence, etc etc is still intact and he is fighting against all odds to emerge victorious. He is a man fighting for his own survival. He has become cynical, lonely (in every sense) and his only sahara seems to be his weird comic sense.       

With due respect to Rishbala Fans.

Inspite of them being lead actors, the story cannot run if they are not supported by a proper story, which means a number of supporting characters. Please give due respect to other supporting characters stories.

It is wrong of to say that Trishna got such a length of screen time. Tell me why not ?

Is she not equally the daughter, sister and sister-in-law of the same family of which Rishbala are part of. And honestly speaking RK, Trishna, Roma, Shamsher and Padmini are more important to the story because they work in the Film Industry. Initially Roma's character was supposed to enact the life of a junior artist and she was doing that when she was introduced. And later, we see her pushing Trishna into movies. The struggle through her eyes becomes very real. And then when her brother is lying in hospital, she goes around various associations asking for benefits or advances for the injured. Likewise, Trishna's story is about a struggling actress trying to make it big. She may soon fizzle out and just remain a junior artist like Roma. So what's wrong in her aspiring to it. Wish she finds an opportunity in TV atleast.

I remember this movie Luck By Chance...how Farhan Akhtar's character uses his GF Konkona Sen's contacts and he gets his break into movies...whereas Konkona just remains a TV actress...

I mean...peeps, please have patience and give the creative team to breathe. Already your TRP ratings make them nervous...on top of it negative reviews for everything...Which movie has just hero and heroine for 3 hours ?

Another thing...why MEIEJ is shot fast...as in tracks move fast...because they give that movie reel feel...unlike the soap feel. Movies run fast and soaps have to be slow...so here they run various tracks to create Filmi drama...

In contrast, I like the Chawl party over the Bhatias...any given day.. because I did not sign up for Bhatias and they were not even part of  the promos towards the show.

And Rishbala or any emotion...the suprise and us glued to it.. is until we reach climax and acceptance and pleasure felt is when we have catharsis. Once these moments gone in any drama, they cannot be recreated. This is the basics of emotional element in drama. Why the CVs still keep repeating things is because this is soap drama and people keep asking for it...so we need to live with these pit falls for any romantic jodi and the drama they enact to make our lives happy.

Have I told you...that I actually get bored to see the same actors everyday on TV when I am watching MEIEJ...and that I actually have to go deep into their characters in order to lose my ennui at looking at all those faces...including Rishbala...reason being...I am too exposed to them and since I am watching a soap, I cannot even help it. So instead I concentrate on stories and characters. And everything of what we feel is natural human response.

My apologies, if I hurt people's sentiments...just that I believe that we can all keep ourselves restrained until the inevitable happens and we leave the show because we are so bored...

Episode 158 Discussion: 1st Jan 2013

Episode 158  Discussion: 1st Jan 2013

Action and Drama building up around all the current tracks...Trishna movie launch, Padmini-Shamsher marriage, Balraj Rentry

Episode Review

Wow!!! What a gripping episode. Will give an A+ rating for the episode.

The episode highlights being

• Trishna seeing her producer is none other than her father Balraj and deciding to turn down the movie offer. 
• Trishna chooses not to tell Padmini that Balraj is back in town.
• Bittuji-RK upset that Trishna fainted in front of Balraj and RK asking to fix it up again between.
• RK calls up Shamsher and together him and Madhu ask Shamsher to get married to Padmini
• And an undercurrent of plethora of emotions dominating each scene.

Trishna -Balraj scene - Emotional state of panic and fear.

Trishna wants to thank her producer and is agahst to find out that he is none other than her father Balraj. All flashback scenes. She tries to escape the place before Balraj can see her. But fear and panic gets the better of her and she faints. This is almost the same when as the child Trishna was in. We can see that Trishna has never been able to come out of the traumatic shocks that she felt with her biological father.

On the other hand Balraj...I was confused...why was he calling her Trishna, Trishna as if he recognized and then shooes everything away and calls her "my heroine has fainted". He goes to get support and meanwhile Trishna recovering, bolts from there.

Bittuji-RK Scene in Vanity - Managing business with its ups and down like every other day.

It was an interestingly shot scene. I was reminded of the recurring theme of Bittuji's ever present tension-handling for tensions through his chief's career and business ventures and consequences of it. First he used to be worried about RK's prod schedules, then we were shown of Bittuji's concern about how to get his Chief away from Mukund Dikshit accident case, then Bittuji was worried with extortion calls, and now we have Bittuji starting to get bogged down in worry with Balraj -the producer.

RK the boss was as usually comprehending his secretary/manager's tension and suggesting what he has to do...as usual. And RK is called  to do his shots...his bread and butter earning work. 

Wow!! for the first time I got to hear a director saying aloud to RK, that his shot was perfect. 

Trishna - Padmini scene - What binds them together? A relationship born of sharing pain together and learning to love each other.

Living trauma together, coming out of it together and the love for each other...Today, there was not a moment when there could have been anyone between the two. When Trishna comes running in panic to Padmini, she almost wants to tell her mother that Balraj is back. But something makes her to decide against it. May be she didn't want Padmini to feel the pain. May be she will tell her mother when she calms down. 

And the dialogues beautifully built up the drama. When  Padmini says that Madhu was here...suddenly Trishna realizes that ..oh! yes Madhu is also there...but we do not see the typical jealousy of hers...but someone that is also there between her and her mom and who also needs to be protected, no matter what.

RK-Madhu and Shamsher scene.

I am so moved by their scenes in duo or tri fashion with each other, starting from the phone call placing by RK to Shamsher, Madhu coming to meet up RK at the studio with all disappointment and RK sensing it, Madhu and Shamsher meeting Madhu first and telling her how Rishabh has called him.

Wow!!! Did you hear that ? Shamsher called RK as "Rishabh". That's really something. Really something.

And then the entire trio conversation was so beautifully done. And the marked contrast comes out today that how RK is much better in presenting his case. He makes people think ...Shamsher and RK conversation went to such a high mental plane of understanding, anger and disappointment and yet a driving down understanding of trust between the two. It was just beautiful to watch. I am sure if RK had gone with Madhu to talk to Padmini, he would not have had a high pitched reaction from Padmini, but far more heart-wrenching pain at RK for even thinking about it. Regardless RK would have broken the barriers towards realization far more effectively.Alas! he should not be doing everything by himself. Protocol forbids him that.

Anyways, without any ado, I would bring forth the conversation that I had with Zorica yesterday regarding the essence of Shamsher and Padmini's relationship. I might as well quote it again here.

Zorica asked

What is the name of this relationship.

Me to Zorica

Padmini answered it as "the relationship of trust, respect and purity." 

However, in the mangalsutra scene, Shamsher was so lovingly looking at Padmini when she fumbles a bit to tie it around her neck. A man who loves her daughters as his own, why wouldn't he love her when she takes care of him so much. But just that he is her knight in shining armour and his milady happens to be a married woman. All that is left for him to do it just lay his life down for her and in return never ask anything. That's his gentleman's promise to his milady, one who is not a lady in distress, but a strong lady who chose to save her kids from her evil husband without anyone's help and expecting no help.

Zorica to me

At the very beginning it was clear that this would be a good show. Here we are able to meet first with the image of Balraj, but also to understand how strong bonds connect Padmini and the children. Traumatic experience for her and Trishna, but she was lucky to meet Malik even while Madhu is born. RK had the opportunity to see what the viewers saw at the very beginning in terms of their relationship, and that is a great understanding, respect and mutual concern. Malik has always acted with Padmini as she is of special value, like it was made of glass or porcelain, realizing that Padmini is essentially gentle woman (but fight like a lioness for her children). He acted shy, but always protective.

Originally posted by zorica

My small contribution. It was made in a hurry. But, I'll do one that will show their relationship over time.

I think to make one that would be called: All Dipali's faces. But I myself do not like to watch her, and I suspect neither do you. 

Zorica,

I liked the pic very much.

To answer your question there, Padmini answered it as "the relationship of trust, respect and purity." 

Others Takes

By Tanu

Wishing everyone a Happy and a Prosperous New Year!

It was a well-executed episode, kudos to the writers.

Trishna was a surprise when she decided to hide Ballu's return from her mother. Given how she reacted to the situation the only reason shed wil do the movie is if Ballu forces her to do the movie. It wont take much time for him to figure out that RK wants his identity as the producer to be hidden. So there is no effective way of RK-Trishna talking to eachother… Ballu may use that to his advantage. Trishna might do the film to shield her family (Yes, I am being generous and giving her a benefit of doubt!)

Malik-RK-Madhu scene was very well done. It was heartwarming to hear Malik refer to RK as Rishabh. RK was amazingly mature in the way he spoke to Malik. Yes, RK has an advantage of being the son-in-law because of which the reaction of Malik was toned down. I loved the way RK started off with '...ek duje ke prati parva, chinta aur izzat bahut hai… manna nahi par pyar bhi hai!' he paused at that for Malik's reaction and all he got was Malik's silence which said it all. As RK pointed out it was so obvious Malik was worried about Padmini's reaction and what she would think of him. It is in a way wonderful and in many way too sad that Malik loves Padmini with so much of devotion and yet chose not to tell her anything. They needed to get together a lot earlier… they didn't deserve such incomplete lives being together. There was a stark contrast in the way RK spoke and the way Madhu spoke… cant really fault Madhu because she was too emotional about the entire issue. RK kept the entire conversation as them being two individuals who respect eachother immensely and may even be in love which is why their relationship ought to be given a name. On the other hand  Madhu bluntly said 'aap pati patni se kum tho nahi ho na' She deserved Malik's wrath for that simply because it didn't sound good. What I really liked was the fact that Malik didn't for a moment deny through words or reactions that he loved Padmini nor was he ashamed of it… he was man enough to accept it when it is no longer his secret.

RK is back to RKism... he is using his way to get around to Padmini-Malik about their love for eachother. Did I read Padmini slaps him? He sure deserves it… faking an accident is so not done. But I am sure RK wont mind a bit… he will stand around with an amused smile teasing away Padmini and Malik. Malik will be fine with the marriage thing aslong as Padmini is fine… so can have RK handling Padmini instead of Madhu and Trishna, please?

Bhupinder who plays Malik, isn't an extra ordinary actor but is decent enough an actor… but there are times he reminds me of Dharmendra's 'Tumhara khoon pi jaunga' expression…which is so not cool.

Precap – The nafrat ki deewar is being brought down a pillow at a time.

By Zoya_Naziya

Wishing everyone here a very Happy New Year!!!! May this year bring joy and happiness into yours and your loved one's lives..

Hope some of you had a rocking start and some have a rocking start to the year!!!

Coming to the episode, it was a very eventful and quite a gripping one with all the scenes directed towards the coming toofan in their lives.

Trishna displayed morbid fear on seeing Balraj to such an extent that she faints on the spot. She then comes running to hug her mom, the only person who can truly comprehend her fear and calm her as it is only they both who have been oppressed and traumatised firsthand by the ruthless tyrant. She stops short from revealing about Balraj prolly coz she already looked a lil worried and had blurted by asking if Madhu told her sth. On hearing Madhu's name, I am assuming Trish realized that it is not just her mom and she but even Madhu needs to be kept away/saved from Balraj's wrath. 

Another episode stealer scene apart from the above was the RK-Malik-Madhu scene. It was handled very neatly with no emotions running out of place. I truly loved the scene coz both RK and Malik were using their head to comprehend what was being put-forth by other and answering back in a similar fashion.

Malik clearly understands where RK(and Madhu) are coming from. But he tries to appease the situation by keeping Padmini in mind.  His anger was for the fact that broaching this subject would have caused anguish to Padmini.He tells that his r'ship with Pads is one that he has nurtured with respect and trust and RK points out that  love, care , concern for each other is what has made it a beautiful one. Malik knows Pads might be a strong but still is very deeply-rooted in customs and traditions. He is happy the way things are doesn't want to take a single chance and taint their pure r'ship.  Such a selfless soul. Beti ke liye jaan ki parwah nahi ki and us beti ki maa ke liye zindagi ki parwah nahi ki. 

RK understands the unspoken and the spoken emotions of Malik and hence gears upto the next part of his plan i.e, Mission sasuma ko patao.

I truly liked that RK-Bittuji scene too. Lot of things were running in RK's head but the moment he finds Bittuji worried/tensed, he tells him to aaram se displace the tension on Balraj's(root cause of Bittuji's tension) head.

Interesting times ahead as to what Ballu will do to woo his heroine back to the film offer. Will he stalk/trsck her down to the chawl thus coming face-to-face with his past? What will be his plan of action thereafter? What would RK do if Trish refuses to take up Ballu's film offer?

@Soundarya and others: Your much awaited pillow barrier is breaking down

By Ananya05

Beautiful episode, with everyone playing their part brilliantly.

After many many days I liked Trishna today. I liked the fact that she chose to hide her encounter with ballu from her mother and keep it to herself, although it might not be an intelligent move. I also liked the fact that she showed recognition that Madhu too falls in the line of danger(probably more than them) along with herself and her mother now that ballu is back in town. But ballu will not keep quiet. Remember what tamasha he created to get into this movie with RK. Aur ab to heroine mana kar rahi hai. He will surely track her down and that is when he might come face to face with padmini and madhu.

Madhu-RK-Malik scene was brilliant. One of the best in recent episodes. Everyone has already written beautifully about it. I agree with all of you, so won't write too much and make things repetitive. But, I will not refrain myself from praising RK and Malik. Padmini and Madhu are truly lucky to have these two men in their lives, who will always put these two ladies ahead of themselves. 

RK once again proves what a skilled man he is when it comes to reading people and putting his point across to them. Loved how he understood the unspoken emotions of Malik for Padmini and made Madhu understand it once Malik left.

To ab RK sasuma ko manane ke liye thappad bhi khane ko tayar hai. Wah! Daamad ho to aisa!

Precap: sent me to dreamland..

by apolloartemis

Great reviews guys, though I had to skim through them (so tired from yesterday and today...)

Watched the episode and I must say it was a very good one. CV's seem to finding the balance between telling Rishbala's story and telling the story of everyone around them- while Rishbala are the focus they are not dominating the narrative, which I like. I think, especially given the six day thing going on now, taking some of the heat of the leads is definately a good thing, as it'll give them some time off, so to speak. Everyone can share the pain if they keep going the way they are.

I loved the way they handled Trishna- I said it before and I'll say it again, no way in heck she would act with Ballu, not the way she feels about him. Her scenes with Padmini were also very good...a daughter who knows there is calamnity coming, but wants to protect her mother above everything else. In no way shape or form was Trishna in her "stepmother/stepdaughter" mode today, and it was heartwarming to see.

Liked the scene between Malik/RK/Madhu. The two men really are alike in the way they view Madhu and their loved ones. Malik endured 20 years of taunts for his respect and love for Padmini, and RK's obsession with Madhu will lead him heaven knows where. I don't think RK could ever be as selfless as Malik has been though. Madhu is his and he'll burn the world to keep her.

What I am excited about is the upcoming confrontration with Ballu. It'll be nice if it's a family effort, not just a Rishbala thing.

Also, is anyone noticing that RK is genuinely coming close to Madhu's family, but still keeping a distance from his mother? I mean in the sense that he does trust Malik and Padmini...but he'll never trust his mother again.

Who gets the title Radunce again- woman, for the love of Pete, stop listining to your elder DIL- grow a brain!

Episode 157 Discussion: 31st Dec 2012

The Past needs to be burnt for The Future to be bright

Episode 157  Discussion: 31st Dec 2012

Action and Drama building up around all the current tracks...Trishna movie launch, Padmini-Shamsher marriage, Radha and Dipali - hurts being fixed by RK in his own way. A rated episode.

Episode Review

Another drama filled episode with 

1. Madhu finally gearing and discussing with Padmini to think about getting married to Malik
2. RK subverting Deepali's blackmail to go and tell Radha everything
3. Radha demanding a Rishu of Madhu like the way he had parted from her and then cowering down in realization that she will wait for the time it shall happen
4. Trishna seeing her producer is none other than her father Balraj.

Madhu - Padmini Scene - Drama expected on the lines. 

Padmini in denial and hence the loud drama. Nevertheless scene is not forced, but very natural. Madhu gathering all courage, expecting all resistance and denial, getting backed up by her husband over phone and does it with all determination inspite of being nervous. And Padmini, the unsuspecting mother chirps on until she realizes her daughter has an agenda to discuss. What the viewer knows for the first time is that Padmini accepted that she has feelings for Shamsher, but she would rather go on living like this, expecting all chawl people to call her Bhabhiji and yet not break the formal barriers of distance between her and Shamsher. She says its the relationship of trust, respect and purity.

Radha - Dipali and Madhu scene - Ah! The high society woman, their manners, their charms and their sugar coated warnings and reminders to each other !!!!

What can we expect when three flawed women meet and chat. That there will be drama like going on in a kitty party between socialite women. On the surface the three women will maintain decorum and social manners, but they would talk to each other in camaraderie reeking with sugar coated dialogues of sweetness which are actually snobbishm and hypocritic with threatening taunts.

Radha in her high-minded way claims aloud that her son has begun to accept her.Boasts and repeats to Madhu that her son had taken her blessing, made her eat the cake and now taking care of her health. Isn't it true of society, that a lie when said loudly 10 times it starts to seem as the truth. That is the case of Radha towards Madhu's actions towards her. Alas !! 

But she wants more. She remembers that and asks herself how to get it. She sees the ass before her...her DIL Madhu. She turns to her and in quiet unyeilding tone asks Madhu that she start working on returning her son Rishu to her in ship-shape of yesteryears. God! the woman had the nerve to ask of that.

When Dipali as usual becomes the sly woman to let nothing mend between mother and son and tries to sway that Radhaji is dreaming and should resist her getting too under the sweet imaginations, Radha realizes her high-mindedness and turns to Madhu and becomes yet again the meek beggarly woman seeking alms of her son's acceptance of her from the charitable woman in front of her. Wow!!! what a precipation of her high-mindedness...She is faster than the chameleon in changing the colors. Coward that she is! Disgusting woman wallowing in her impoverished state. Never gets tired of begging for more.

Madhu, we know she is not the innocent...she who gives two hoots to what Radha might expect of her later on after she keeps her promise, is neither aghast at listening to Radha growing insane demands of her nor affected of Dipali instigating Radhaji of containing her dreams.

However, she gets affected by Dipali talking negatively of RK. She gets defensive and defends her husband quite smoothly and in stern manner. She gets her tone of taunting and caution and indirectly tells Dipali that if she has forgotten the respect RK has always shown to Dipali and never threw her out. That is enough to silence Dipali and Radha.

RK - Dipali scene. The bully gets shut-up by the Baby

As expected by the Vixen was eavesdropping in him and his wife's plans. Dipali comes and blackmails quite openly that she will go and tell Radha that something is being cooked by her son and DIL in matter of few days...so he better tell her now. Ah!!! the vixen thought that RK is still the baby who can be bullied in privacy...that he will yet again break down before her and start crying. No. The baby just dared her to go and reveal everything to Radha. Oh No!!! what is gonna tell? She doesn't know anything. What just happened...and as she turns to in disappointed thought, RK her pup, becomes the canine ready to gnarl. Ha Ha!!! yeah, he dares her again...she said that he is unluckly in love. Right? He is gonna disprove her in matter of few days. The bully is aghast. What?? So this was all the plan...to defeat her. What fun is she going to have out of it. She is not privy to the plan and on top of it everything is being planned to show her down!! Bad !!! Can things get any bleaker for her today ?? Wife tips her off and now hubby too chafing her off !!! She needs to do something !!!!

What was interesting was that RK chose to tell Madhu that Dips was in his room ...yet again to talk to him and now in her absence. Haha !!! I liked that.

Trishna- Balraj- Bittuji scene - Recognition with clarity

Trishna wants to thank her producer and agahst to find out that he is none other than her father Balraj. All flashback scenes. What is interesting to note here is that Balraj has already started to get out of Bittuji's hands. He promises them something but snakes his way out of that promise. Though he promised Bittuji not to meet the heroine of his movie, he was happy to get his way out. He is sure going to be a trouble to Bittuji and RK...big time!!

Some changes in Story Telling Technique

These  days I am liking the dialogues embedded with "In dino" or "Pichle kuch dino mein" or "Us din"... 

• This will help MEIEJ pick up on time story wise... After Karwa Chauth ...with these phrases in between, the timeline is being taken forward.

• and also let us get into a mind-set that RK and Madhu actually are spending time together; without any special events, and hence giving them that timeframe which makes their relationship growing. It is needed for the couple to stabilize.

Others 

By Leela

I'm getting one niggling - okay, nearly petrifying actually - concern.

Does Madhu think RK only wants to get away from the star life?

Does she expect RK to have *Radha* - with or without the other three leeches - as part of RK's life even afterward?

Radha is not Padmini to adjust. She likes not just comfort but luxury. She likes playing the grand lady.

And even more than that, she likes never having to *acknowledge* just how much she owes her son - not just for providing for her second family, but also for financing the grand gestures *she* likes to make even for occassions he has no liking for. ....RK's money spent in Radha's style.....She saw that Madhu asked her son to feed her the first piece of cake, and yet in speaking of the occassion, she managed to sound as if RK did so of his own volition.

How many other things about her son are a similar tale of her self-delusion to foster her image of herself as a good mother?

I'm willing to bet that from Mohan Kundra's death onwards, every tale Radha has told Madhu about Rishabh is in the same vein as 'the first piece of cake to share his success'. And Madhu's shrewdness *is* emerging, but not in any interaction with Radha. There she is as naive and gullible as ever.

How badly will Radha end up hurting RK before Madhu stops the 'Maa-bhajan'?

Responded by SD

Leela,

Read your post re Radha-the thorn for Rishbala Rose. Your concern is genuine. 

Let me tell you. I think it is a Bubble to burst soon between Madhu and Radha.

• Madhu has already a Trishna thorn to deal with which is also making RK weak as he is unable to use his acid tongue owing to him having to respect his wife's relations.

• Madhu now will develop a Radha thorn to deal with , where in here again she will herself make it weaker both for her and RK, to not use the acid tongue.

Redemption points for us:

1. RK has acid tongue
2. Madhu has taunting tongue
3. RK can hear bad for himself, but never for his wife. He kept quiet before Trishna for his own reason of guilt driven fixing her career and that he has been the cause of Trishna's animosity towards Madhu. A day will come when, if RK hears Trishna lashing just Madhu, he will not be able to keep quiet.
4. Madhu can hear bad for herself, but never for her husband.

Catalytic actions :

There should be an undercurrent antagonistic fatal interventions to disrupt Rishbala life together.

• When in Nafrat stage, Radha was the catalyst to bring them together. Now when the love birds want to fly away, she will become the catalyst to fail their plan of going away.

• Trishna is already being the catalyst for Balraj entry and all that production paraphernalia.

I always keep my patience around the dramatic elements needed to run the story. So as long as they keep justifying the twists, I am okay with these pains induced. Pains means antagonism introduced towards protagonist efforts.

Why it is so convincing is because, Rishbala characters are flawed and not perfect. They have individual weakness inspite of larger goodness in them and also their love story as a plot requirement is flawed with the sacrifice and insecurity sword hanging over them.   

Episode 155 Discussion: 27th Dec 2012

Am I looking isshmart ? Yes. You are looking smart !

Episode 155  Discussion: 27th Dec 2012

Episode Events

1. Balraj enters the studio to watch his heroine giving a photoshoot. He is impressed with her and he leaves. Trishna misses him seeing, however she chances to see RK and Bittuji who had followed Balraj to see what he may do with Trishna. Trishna follows them out and typical to her ill-natured temperament, very annoyingly throws off an attitude over RK and dares him not to come in between her dreams which have just kick-started.
2. Dipali enters Radhaji's room and under the pretext of gifting her a shawl, tries to be snoopy as to what happened between RK and Madhu and what was the fight about. Radha advises her not to interfere in between husband and wife tiffs.
3. Madhu has gone to chawl and there she starts observing her mother Padmini and her father Shamsher from RK's eyes. She really starts feeling what RK said about them, that they do share a special bond. She feels it more poignantly when she sees Padmini as the married and yet not married woman through that Mangal sutra scene. Padmini's Mangalsutra was broken ...signifying to Madhu as one that Balraj must have tied for Padmini and now that got repaired and smoothened by Shamsher albeit minus his right to tie it for Padmini around her neck. 
4. She comes home and observes Radhaji calling the servant for medicines. Madhu stops to chat with her when Radhaji advises her not to stop talking to her son Rishu as he had made her his life. Madhu gets emotional and asks Radhaji not to worry.
5. RK and Bittuji are coming home. While in RK mansion lift, RK asks Bittuji to call up his lawyer. Bittuji wonders why now, all of a sudden, but keeps the thoughts to himself.
6. RK on entering the RK Mansion room living room, sees Radhaji taking medicines. He asks her why is she is taking the medicine. Baffled and dumb-stricken she manages to tell him that her BP has raised to 150/90. RK asks her to take care of her health. Madhu watches all of this.
7. RK enters his room. Madhu wants to talk to him. But RK is not talking to her. Madhu keeps trying to cajole him and tells him that she has something important to tell him. As RK goes about his work, she manages to tell him that she's been to see her parents and that he was right about them. To be continued tomorrow.

by rangamunch

http://www.rangmunch.tv/index.php/writers-gully/reflections-menu/item/2456-madhubala-righting-wrongs-in-relationships

My Take on the Episode

Yet another interesting Episode. Again an A from me.

Am I looking isshmart ? Yes. You are looking smart ! I loved it!!!

If that was spoken by the seeming nincompoop and yet the ruggedly smart Balraj, it was no less the theme for all of the characters today. Almost everyone seemed to ask me today...Ain't I a Smart ? This undoubtedly is the theme of the day applied on every character today barring Bittuji, Padmini and Shamsher.

Balraj-Trishna-RK-Bittuji

So Trishna and Balraj do not get to meet each other. But Trishna gets to see RK and Bittuji and as usual has to start off lashing out at them. I guess; we like RK and Bittuji have to put up with her Heroine tantrums for a while. Sigh! 

I wondered, Balraj was so excited to see his heroine. But then he left the studio impressed with her shoot. So is that his sense of business ruling his mind at the moment ? I am yet to know this man. How he thinks and how he operates !!!!

Dipali-Radhaji Scene

Didn't Dipali give the shawl to Radhaji, right when she flew home from London in Sep ? How many more shawls are left for her to gift ? Seems always an agenda there. God!! Please can I have a permanent break from her ? Can she be sent back to London? I have been wishing since someone in the forum posted the poll. And sadly she still is there to send me to spiralling fits. Gosh ! can that gossip woman get any more gossippy and snoopy? Thank Goodness! Radhaji was no dunce and in a very subtle manner shows Dips that she is crossing the line. Thank Goodness!!!

Bottomline is Dips has become the hyena trying to scavenge any information that can help her survive to go back to her old days of reiging Queen of RK Mansion...Bahu hoon Mein Is Ghar ki.  Yuck!!!! I am going to get a barf attack here!

Radhaji - Madhu Scene

And then again Rads selfishness! Gosh!!! "Mere Rishu ke saath baat karna band mat karna"...Idiot!! Why not you say "Tum apne Rishu(RK) ke saath"...or Just plain "Rishabh" Sigh!!! The self-centeredness never ends!!! Chalo I forgive you...because yours laadli Bahu is no less mad. She needs to be advised like you said, even if that is ill-advised. Sigh!

Padmini-Shamsher Marriage Track

Interesting Padmini and Shamsher scenes look so natural and beautiful and not at all forced. Normally soap writers make it all clunky plot for supporting cast, but here it looks so beautiful here for the main characters to be taking care of the supporting characters. There I spoke myself why it is interesting !!  Because their story is being seen from the eyes of RK and MB. So it becomes much more beautiful. But I as a viewer, am proud to say that I could see the beauty even before RK and MB! YEY!!!  Wasn't I hurt, how Padmini could leave Shamsher for all the sacrifices he made. It reminds be of Jean Valjean of Les Miserables. His love for Cossette and his commitment to Fantine, her mother. Unspoken and un-named relationships and yet so much depth. Les Misrables was complicated, but Padmini and Shamsher's story is quite simple. So this plotline is so apt!! Just loving the drama here!  

CVs I like it. Keep it up 

Bittuji and RK scene --over Bittuji's questioning. Oh! I love them. Where and when and how they become employer/employee, friends and brothers, I cannot fathom. In every expression there is that sense of decorum, friendliness all within its limits. I just don't know what can I say of them? Amazing! RK keeps baffling Bittuji and yet Bittuji so steadfastly is his excellent executor of RK will. Good teamwork.

RK-Radhaji scene - If I couldn't express myself properly over Bittuji and RK, how do you think I am gonna write on son and mother scene. God! the woman was totally baffled. She was looking all around her!! Well somehere they had to begin. Hmmm!!! Beginnings!

RK-Madhu Scene - Madhu realized. Choti Bachi se Badi Bacchi ban gayi. 

Finally just as I thought, Madhu the married woman saw what Padmini the married and yet not married woman was missing all these years through that Mangal sutra scene. Padmini's Mangalsutra was broken ...signifying to Madhu as one that Balraj must have tied for Padmini and now that got fixed and smoothened by Shamsher albeit minus his right to tie it for Padmini around her neck. 

So the married Madhu finally understands how her husband was right all along. She cannot have him all the pleasure...she still needs to call him the 5 yr old kid with attitude and she's crying for having thought of him dumb and insensitive. And RK, what does he need, other than for his Biwi to just agree to him. He is the Creator, the seeker of truth and bearer of truth, all he needs is someone to see, someone to be with him and someone to support him in executing his wishes. Haha!!!  Him and his need to create. And what he thinking when asking his Bittuji to call up a lawyer ? Is he thinking of getting legal implications sorted out for Padmini and Shamsher marriage or something else. Whatever be! Man on the Mission. That's RK for me. Keep it up.

Best Scene of the Day

RK-Bittuji Scene in the RK Mansion Lift.  

Hmmm! The guy owns two floors of that Apt Complex I guess!!

Others.

Originally posted by pippa

All in all, a complete episode wherein everyone had a part to play...a perfect panoply of what an ensemble cast in a show ought to be.

Totally agree with you. Nothing better than how you put it there

By Zoya

RK ki choti bachchi badi bachchi ban gayi!!!!

With RK's planted keeda in her mind, Madhu visits her maayka, only to see that Malik and Padmini have always shared a husband-wife like r'ship , thus approving their marriage proposal.

Trishna-Balraj: Was Trishna so much made-up for the photo-shoot and the photo-shoot lights also switched on, that Balraj failed to recognize Trishna as the common girl who came to visit RK in jail? Ab jaake samajh aaya mujhe make-up aur lights ka kamaal And he approved her as potential heroine-material already!!!

Trishna-RK-Bittuji: Trishna says that she is trying to make a new beginning in the industry and as usual throws her ghisa-pita tantrum. She prolly  thinks that RK is now Madhu's aashiq and so he'll shut his mouth.  Can't she for once think that who could have lifted the ban on her? And come on RK, if you throw in a lil attitude at her, it's not going to harm her or she is not going to discover that you are behind all this.. 

RK-Bittuji-Lawyer- RK is already doing the ground-work for Padmini-Malik marriage.. Am assuming the lawyer is for discussing the nitty-gritty of Padmini's previous marriage and how to legally overcome them.. Smart Boy!!!

I can finally say for once, I was not disappointed with Radha today. She put Dipzy in place though I know, she herself didn't quite know the details. One advice for Madhu here. Continue not saying your marital fights/woes to your MIL and let it be just b/w you and RK.

She advised Madhu that RK has always been lonely and he has made you his life, so do not stop talking to him even if there is some problem. Here also, you can see some selfishness in her, but maafi for the fact that it is for RK-Madhu's welfare.

She was moved when RK enquired about her health. 

RK-Madhu scene: It was a nice one with Madhu trying to pacify RK.

Can we not have Dipzy on screen plzzz?

by Ananya

Once again Cvs justify why this serial is different from most others and an addiction to the viewers. The reason I say this:

1. Padmini-Shamsher bonding- Beautifully done, with each and every expression and dialogue looking so genuine. Nothing looks forced just so to convince viewers about the upcoming marriage track. 

2. Rishabh-Radha scene: In spite of my reservations with the character Radha, I liked today's scene very much. The anguish and hurt accumulated inside Rishabh will not disappear in an instant just because he has fallen in love with his wife and she wants him to reconcile. The healing process for Rishabh has to be gradual, and that is where CVs strike the cord, first with that cake scene and now with today's scene. Glad they are not showing all sugary maa-beta patch up scenes in a hurry. I was touched to see how Radhaji was looking around in amazement just to make sure that it was her that her son was talking to. Credit goes to the actor here.

3. RK-Madhu scene: It was just Awww.. Madhu ka cute, golgappa, samajhdar pati. She manaofied RK in so RK style. She knew a normal 'sorry, mujhe maaf kardo' would not have worked on him. Madhu finally realizes the deeper emotions underlying mutual respect, concern and care between her parents. Courtesy, RK sowing this seed of thought in her mind and then her witnessing the mangalsutra and sweater scene today.

The way these two fight and patch up, it is so much as happens in real life couples. Couples in real life don't skulk over their fights for zillions of years as is shown in many other serials which drains the viewers of their emotional powers. Their relationship is so adorable and connectable for aam janta like us. And bonus, 2-2 hug ek hi episode me.. I am loving this subtle romance between these two.

Coming to Radha-deepali. I still have a feeling had Radhaji known the reason for RK-Madhu fight, she would have told deepali.

Radha-Madhu scene: Again highlights the selfishness of this lady.

The only reason Trishna has the audacity to throw so much attitude and venom at RK these days is that she knows he would keep quite for Madhu's sake. 

RK-bittuji scene was hilarious as usual.

Coming to Balraj, surprisingly he has a glimpse of his heroine and leaves.Hmm!!

A sincere reuest to CVs: Can we have some permanent solution for this deepali? Please. She took up 5 mins of screen space today. 

P.S: Did I mention how I am loving RK portraying the perfect husband these days? The way he askd her 'badi bacchi bankar sochna'...aww...

RK-Trishna Scene Analysis - Zoya, Hima and SD

Originally posted by himbin

Originally posted by zoya_naziya

Trishna-RK-Bittuji: Trishna says that she is trying to make a new beginning in the industry and as usual throws her ghisa-pita tantrum. She prolly  thinks that RK is now Madhu's aashiq and so he'll shut his mouth.  Can't she for once think that who could have lifted the ban on her? And come on RK, if you throw in a lil attitude at her, it's not going to harm her or she is not going to discover that you are behind all this.. 

BOLD...Exactly...Seeing RK staying quiet while Trishna was going blah...blah...I was reminded of our usual mahaan soap heroines...RK sure could have shown some attitude and acted dismissive...It goes with his persona not,staying quite taking crap even when he wants to hide

his hand behind her launch

Come on gals! Give him a slack. Today was not the day. Deeper things weighed on RK's mind. He was having a bad day and yet he was poised throughout all his executions for the day. He needed to be poised, if he had to be successful, Remember the whole day he had been dealing with craziness around him...Madhu and Balraj. And that too on a hungry stomach.  I really wonder, how he went on without food. Would Trishna have changed had RK showed any attitude ?

Moreover, seeing Trishna following them RK and Bittuji panicked. So their need to get away from her. Slyness and deceipt automatically makes you weak. That was RK's psychological state. Remember, RK does not like too much of ugly situations...

Trishna is Laaton ke Bhoot Baaton se nahin maante. She was a vain brat always, a tantrum queen even when she was nothing. She got slapped by Padmini, Roma and Shamsher. Only left people are Madhu and RK

Shri,

I understand all that weighing on his mind and his need to get away from Trishna but,we are used to a particular way how a character acts in a given situation and I felt RK could still have gotten away from Trishna but,with a care not,dismissive look...But,then again it was not a big,important scene for me to keep fretting about...so,will let it go... but,just hope this is not how RK is going to be through out this track of him secretly launching Trishna...Him  following BSC to make sure he doesn't bother Trishna was nice though...

Hima,

I understand you. And I really should not force my opinion on anyone in this regard.

 But yet again let me show this. Just hear me out. The guy patched up with Madhu in his own time, then embraced Padmini and Shamsher in time...with taunts, tantrums and now love...so much that without any word, just takes their blessings. He is in this deep mellowed state. The only person left out is Trishna. Trishna is sore point for both RK and Madhu. RK knows he used her like a doormat, worse than what he did for Shamsher. He used Trishna to get close to Madhu during Mukund days. And then he had asked for a ban on Trishna which he forgot for so many days. If he could fix up Shamsher's health and then forgive him when RK voluntarily did not desire any bad for Shamsher, how can he not go for retribution when he volunteered to ruin Trishna for the irritable gnat sister of Madhubala. Yes, he had insane apathy for Trishna just like he felt the disgust for Mukund's mother. But then this period of him is not about him living in disgust. This is about him correcting his mistakes.

Why does he not answer back Trishna in RK style? To me its like the same way why he does not answer back Dipali. Come to think of ...RK is a gentleman in his own way...I remember somewhere writing about that. He stays away from women in decent limits. He does not have the acid tongue that he uses mostly around him...and especially on Kuku, Sikky, his mother and later on Madhu, Padmini and Shamsher. Therefore, I was relatively surprised in the episode references that you showed to me where RK tells Trishna that he will destroy her career. The way he used the language...TU, Tujhe, that was SO CRASS and UN RKish, I was plain disgusted. I was aghast that he went out of his character. 

So how I relate the two is...she invokes so much disgust and lowliness in him when he is in vulnerable state that, he wouldn't want himself to be there again.  May be for viewers like me the writers showed RK, the way he behaved today in a justifiable manner.  May be they will soon show him showing her, her place if she says anything against Madhu.  His problem with Trishna right now is that, he happened to be the reason of her unhappiness and her cursing him and Madhu and secondly, she being Madhu's loved sister. He is just sandwiched between the two feelings.

Why he could tauntingly talk to Padmini and Shamsher. Because, even without Madhu's duhai...those two samaritans evoked so much respect from him that he tried to be cynical about it. It went on until he just wanted to embrace them. Sarcasm is a sense of humor usually employed only on the deserving and equals and not who keep whining and crying like Trishna. Gosh! He is a man. How can he keep on stand looking at the tears. If he tolerated his mother and her family, provided for her, if he said a Yes to Balraj madness, he can say Heck! and just stand there at Trishna madness.

Inspite of me feeling this way...no worries. I am sure the CVs have planned something nice for Trishna. You shall all be happy. Atleast Bittuji said something to Trishna.