Thursday, January 31, 2013

Episode 183 Discussion: 31st Jan 2013

Padmini gets married to Shamsher. Kundras, Maliks and Bhatias get ready for Picnic.

Events of the Episode
  1. RK apologizes for his past bad behaviour to Madhu. She says let bygones be bygones and that RK Balm has redeemed everything.
  2. Dipali is irritated that media is flaunting Padmini Acquittal news from two days. She throws the newspaper angrily over Sikky who as usual is having a dig at his wife that he had sense before he married her.***Sikky gets good dialogues these days***
  3. Radhaji, RK, Roma, Madhu and Trishna get Shamsher and Padmini married in extremely private and quick ceremony, with just sindhoor ceremony and legal paper signing by the Marriage court lawyer. ***RK is indeed resourceful damaad*** My only grudge, wish they had phool mala done along mangal-sutra tying.
  4. Everyone gets ready to go for picnic. Madhu and RK are on road. RK has taken a different route avoiding the main route to prevent himself being flocked by people when stuck in traffic jam. They are having their love fights as usual...and waiting for an accident to happen
  5. Dips is trying mix alcohol in Coke to save herself from forced company of Bhatias and Maliks. Unfortunately, Sikky's balll, while playing cricket in the RK mansion hall along with Bittuji, hits Dips Cola bottle, spilling everything. She still has some whiskey and cola left to salvage. Bittuji and Sikky catch the liquor smell. Sikky wonders aloud and Bittuji knows it to be Dipali who brought liquor into the kitchen. Bittuji asks both of them to get ready so that they can start off.
Episode Reviews
by Myself
Nothing of it touched my heart or head. So this was clearly a filler episode for real drama somewhere else. However, the entire episode could not be dismissed by me. I had two reactive thoughts in my mind as I watched.
  • If Shamsher can just fill up Sindhoor in PAdmini's head and they are declared married (followed by the kagzi karyawahi of course), why can't Madhu and RK; who are Kagzi prakaar se married already, get to honour their marriage by RK filling the sindhoor in Madhu's maang? Why are the phere unimportant for Padmini and Shamsher and why the rest of the 3 phere so important for RK and Madhu ?
  • So is the new social evil portrayed in MB'Land now is Woman's alcoholism and the case under study is Dips Bhatia ? Because she is the one who is hiding it, unlike Bhatias who are admitted alcohol addicts. 
Interestingly or coincidentally, just two days back, we had TB citing Aamir Khan over this issue. Anyways Film world is replete with this problem.

Seems CVs are bit burnt out and are now resting a little. This track might ease out their nerves and they seem to have been making fun of their stress themselves by adding the TRP joke.  The Television Rating Point got twisted to Togetherness Rating Point.  While the actors were capable of delivering, the script was quite weak. The unimpressive episode was because of unimpressive dialogues and hence, it seemed filler than  being involving us emotionally.

The luggage case getting packed with Madhu - Of course for DD, 5'4" girl and that too healthy, she has flexible body and both the actors handled the acting very well in that scene. If only the dialogues were good. Alas!!! 

Madhu sitting on the stairs scene. The scene demanded Madhu to be pensive as she was now letting go all truama/shock/jubilation from last two days. She could not cry as she had happiness too...but all of that thought would have made her pensive. So it was a good place for Madhu to be in and being pensive, but again the script's dialogues did not give the actor the meat to emote well. She had no support from the script and this scene too became filler and yet staple of the episode, as the denouement was needed.

But the best scene of the day was between Sikky -Dips -Bittuji. All the three actors played very well. The dialogues were good and logical. And though Dips had no dialogues later, her emoting was too good. She brought out the ENNUI of the picnic for herself, trying to ALLAY it with alcohol mixed in Cola drink and the FEAR when she though she would be caught. Her problem is that Radhaji thinks her Elder Bahu Dipali is Sati Savitri types...that false impression to be maintained is necessary for Dips as there are advantages like she gets her petty cash from Radhaji through household administration. Here the CVs definitely put thought into the drama. It was clearly visible.  We now know that Sikky plays cricket in hall (like RK used to before getting married) if RK is out of the house and his mother is not watching him.

By Soundarya
I did'nt want to write about today's episode. Not because it was not good, in fact this was a good time pass episode. Maybe we have a week of such episodes till we are informed about the 'next big track'. This whole village track is honestly a soothing breather after the whole Balraj drama. Bahut tension ho gaya thaLOL. So basically, just like the characters are relaxed and enjoying themselves, I just want to sit back and enjoy these light hearted episodes. 

I liked:
  • RK's apology...so the loop is closed finally on that whole 4 phere shaadi. Actually,no, one part is closed with his apology, the next part will be closed when they marry because they want to be each other for the rest of their lives. 
  • Paddy-Malik finally marry...great. Have all the formalities been fulfilled, paving the way for their '7 phere' shaadi?? Except for trishna, but is anyone going to take any trouble over her?? Trishna's track is still incomplete.
  • Deepali ...sad and lonely. And on the way to becoming an alcoholic...
Confused:
  • So Madhu was packing for them to leave forever?? Eureka, light bulb lit up only when I saw the episode for the second time
By Zoya_naziya
It was quite an okayish filler episode...

I guess it's the first time that they showed one night, then next day and the day after all in one episode:)
And thankfully they mentioned in passing that 2-3 days have already passed by after the court-room drama... Wish they would have paid attention to this detail during that time also...

So Madhu doesn't take away anything from this drama and as usual has nothing to say to RK!!!!! And RK is full of remorse and apologizes and as usual this girl brushes it off and the scene over... She finally got to mouth his "Ahaan" today...

Padmini-Malik married off at home with the lawyer bringing in the marriage papers... RK would have saved an enormous amount of money had he thought of this idea before.. But nahi... drama and melodrama toh hona hi hai... Anyways RK would have thought, waise bhi am not taking anything along with me except Madhu, might as well lavishly spend it on others...

Madhu was after all packing for their "Khufiya jagah chalo"

Chalo, the CV's told the viewers not to expect too much romance,intimacy and passion by making RK say that "hamein TRP's laane hain"

RK-Madhu scenes were done pretty neatly... 

Sikky is getting better dialogues nowadays.. His "tumhe shaadi karne se pehle akal thi" was too good... 

Doesn't SIkky and the family know that Dipzy drinks? Are we going to have a Loser Dipzy ki alcohol ki kahani in future?

Wow!!!DD must be super-flexible to fit into the suitcase yaar...
If this guy is so so very conscious of his super-star image, how is he going to live a simple life where no one recognizes him...

by vkk2429
Nothing much to analyse today.
A light hearted filler episode..
The staircase scene was neatly done(with out the annoying same type of hugsDisapprove)
Liked the Bittuji-Dips-Sikky scene.. esp bittuji's dialogue of 
"aap bahut paarivahik mahila hain"  to DipsLOL
The packing scene was cuteSmile 
but as Shri said the dialogues were not hitting the chord today..
Padmini-Shamsher marriage was ok and expected to me.. but
again as a lot of you pointed out if they can do this...
what is stopping Madhu and RK from doing the same??? just 
making the viewers have the anticipation of 7 phere shaadi, I guessAngry
Let us see what is in store with the village track.. I dont have too 
much expectations other than to see what is the twist that is coming up.

By dramacrazy12
Very light and breezy episode that tied loose threads from last track and began a buildup towards the next big track. It actually felt quite nice after the melodrama in last few days.
Couple of things I liked-

1)The understanding and mutual appreciation between Madhu and RK continues to grow. RK apologizes once again for his mistakes and misbehaviour in past and Madhu forgives citing the balm he put on it afterwards. I did not think this sequence was really necessary but I know a lot of fans wanted explicit groveling and asking for forgiveness on RK's part so I am guessing this was an attempt to appease them.

2)Padmini and Shamsher get married, RK takes care of the legalities. While I understand that the affair needed to be understated in light of recent events still I thought it was disappointing how it was carried out. They did not even exchange the garlands which everyone who goes through court marraige does. They could have atleast got a couple of neighbours in as witness.  I guess the CVs are in a hurry to change tracks. The way Trishna gets forgiven and her deeds are forgotten still irks me but for now I have to like with it.

3)Dips is jealous of Madhu/Paddo's praise in media while Sikky laments the loss of an opportunity to get in front of media. He vows to get his picture in newspaper very soon (Is that a hint for future track?) Rest of the Bhatia comedy is not worth mentioning though it cemented some facts for me once again -
  • Sikky and Dips are growing more and more apart and frustated with each other, Sikky still seems invested in the relationship while Dips has already checked out. Dips is a closet alcoholic whatever the reasons- my guess...she has a hard time living with her choices and failures because she always seems to want something other than what she has.
  • Both RK and Bittuji tolerate Bhatias because of Radha. They seemed to know the true character of each of them with Dips being the worst
4) Cute packing for picnic...errr...vacation sequence. Did not understand the joke thing .
5)RK grabbing some personal time  with Madhu by starting early. He continues to give Madhu superstar attitude . I found thier back and forth really fun and romantic. He finally gets Madhu to accept that she is his fan... I still continue to wonder how a guy with such ego and attitude plans to live in sanyas without a penny to his name...


Pictorial Commentary 
Originally posted by zorica
Without Trishna, sorry! ShockedWink
Originally posted by zorica

Originally posted by zorica


Episode 182 Discussion: 30th Jan 2013


Padmini trial started, run and ended in Record One Day - Absolved of killing Balraj.
 
Events of the episode
  1. Trial starts with the two legal counsels stating their cases in the Mumbai High Court
  2. Judge asked Padmini to tell her story. Padmini gives a high powered rhetoric that instead of now, she should have killed Balraj the rakshas 20 years back. That she should be hanged for being a submissive wife to her husband, taking his abuses and running away when he tried to kill her child.
  3. PP is not convinced. Madhu protests. Judge calls her to speak from witness box.Madhu goes for yet another high powered rhetoric, higher horse power than Padmini's and she gives the definitions of Parmeshwar and Rakshas, contests that Rakshas deserve to be killed/ended and that her biological father was a Rakshas. 
  4. Radhaji - the moral voice claps and everyone else claps following her, giving the mother and daughter a standing ovation.
  5. Judge impressed with Madhu's argument and absolves Padmini.  
**********SD comment********** I vote the case and Judge for Guiness World of Records for Fastest Court Trial and Judge and that too judgement achieved through without any advocacy from lawyers, but through rhetorical speech from the accused and her motive behind killing...her daughter.

Pictorial Commentary - by Zorica
Court Room Drama
Main characters of the episode - Madhu, Padmini, Jugde, Public Prosecutor and Defence Counsel
Supporting Characters - Check the front row of the spectators

Originally posted by zorica


Episode reviews

By myself
RK to Media
Aap ya aapki News Channel, Zindagi Bhar ke liye, mere quotes(?) aur interviews se door nahin rahna chaahte, to aap log is tarah moonh band karenge, jaise ki aapne kabhi bolna seekha hi nahin...
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFLROFL ROFLROFL ROFLROFL

ETA
rest of the episode
High Octane gassed drama 
Approve Approve Approve Approve Approve Approve Approve
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

By dramacrazy12
Today the show completed its social duty by giving out the social message on Nari Shakti. Hopefully we can get back to melodrama and romance now.
Today's sequences
 
1)RK tells off media and protects Padmini from story seeking vultures- RK looked hot Embarrassedand Padmini looked graceful. Though unrealistic the way RK dealt with media, there is something endearing about RK trying to protect  Padmini.
 
3)Trishna asks for forgiveness and accepts that she was wrong to accuse RK. Apparently she did it because she was stressed and confused or something to that effect. ConfusedMy personal opinion is that she is smarter than that- she saw no one believed her and everyone was upset with her, potentially withdrawing thier support in future so she decided to ask for forgiveness and get back in everyone's good book. There was no regret on her face at all.  While I understand there is no point in flogging her for her deeds...what is done is done... families need to stick together when in peril and pointing fingers at each other only creates more issues. I hope Maliks and Kundras realize that she is completely unreliable and self-centered. She will not hesitate in selling her family out again to achieve her dreams should the opportunity present itself.DeadDead
 
3)The court case starts - Padmini finally reacts and tells that the court that she does not repent killing Ballu. Her only regret is that she should have done something similar years ago instead of running and hiding for all these years. We got a recap of what she went through all her life in her words. She eventually faints. I think the reality is beginning to sink in and while Padmini ended up shouting through the sequence... She embodied an abused woman at the end of her rope. Not bad!
 
3)Public prosecutor picks on Padmini and Madhu marches forward to give bhashan on nari shakti while RK looks on proud. As I said before the show did its social duty today in this sequence. This sequence was completely uneccessary and contrived. I have never been into righteous bhashanbaazi so I fastforwarded through it once she began to meander all over the place.Dead I wish Madhu could give same bhashan to Radha at some point.
 
4)Padmini is released and the entire count claps for her...seriously!Dead
 
5)Precap- Very sweet ...Madhu is packing a suitcase for picnic. I thought picnics were a day affair ...obviously I need to brush up on latest definations. Anyways RK seems to believe that Madhu is all he needs to pack...dude... you are so cute and romantic but totally clueless how the real world operates (I guess one of the perks of being a superstar and having an efficient manager like Bittuji). How do you plan to thrive without a change of clothes and toileteries on an obvious couple day vacation?
 
Scenes with RK in them were paisa vasool ...rest was unrealistic bhashanbaazi. I wish they could have shown a more realistic courtcase even with all the bhashans and melodrama. All that was needed was the police inspector to come forward and say that Padmini had no prior history of violence and she killed Ballu in self defence. She did not have any options. A couple of proofs to prove Ballu was crazy and violent mad man dead bent on killing his wife and daughters in cold blood would have sufficed.

By MarathiMulgi
Court room drama at the supersonic speed.  No time to recover from the shock of the murder. Murder followed by arrest yesteday, hearing and verdict  today. Does that mean Padmini-Malik vivah finally sampanna by the end of the week? Why wait till then I say. Since they are both (and the rest of the family) already in the court, just go for the court-marriage. The usual legal notice before that etc does not apply in their case. Direct from the court they can proceed for their picnic.

See how efficient I would be at directing this at the speed even greater than how these guys are going? Smile  Dimag ko takhliph hi nahi.

The accused (i.e Padmini) takes a stand today in the high court (no less) and her defender is Madhu. Everyone else is just a spectator in today's drama. RK should not have gone through the trouble of appointing sheher ka very best lawyer for Padmini. He should know by now that Madhu is multi talented and  she can single handedly shoulder the responsibilty to see that Padmini gets acquitted. She is well qualified to be the vakil, judge, witness and the jury.

Padmini's speech was very good. It was a good message that julm sehna julm karne jitna hi bada gunah hai.

Issues about girl child, female infantacide,  reference to the recent Delhi gang rape case were high points of Madhu's speech today. It is a good thing that these details are being spoken in hindi serial but I just hope that these are not misused just as window dressing. I have not watched any other  hindi serial but IMHO if these serious subjects are not given their due treatment and handled with extreme care, the hindi serials are better off remaining on the safe ground of saas-bahu drama.

By Zoya_Naziya
What an episode!!!LOLLOL
Not that I know too much about courts and the justice system , but I felt the entire judicial system was presented in a false manner to the viewers, which is no less than a mockery...

Chalo, Finally the Ballu chapter closed forever!!!! The case over in supersonic speed... Looks like the Cv's minds are very fertile and brimming with new ideas and tracks everyday and they want to execute each and every thing... Hope the picnic also gets over fast and they get back to their routine life!!!

Judge asks the accused to state what exactly transpired at the scene of crime. The accused stays silent for some time and then tells everything but that... I was only reminded of the time when I would not know an answer to a question during exam time..I would sit quietly for sometime and then I would beat around the bush and write everything except the relevant answer to the questionLOL

Madhu's bhashan TRP ke liye tha...
And then till now  her pati was only parameshwar for her but today she said Ma is also parameshwar...
And then coming to the Radhaji's applause... Kukkuji beware!!! The slogan is pati numbari toh patni dus numbari...
Trishna as usual was chaloo.. And about Madhu in this case, the less said is better...

By Bhakti
@MM - ROFL Love the idea that - well, already in the courthouse; why not just get Padmini and Shamsher married right now - BOGO offer!

Actually, this track has surpassed even this serial's former incredible propensity for speed.  My head is spinning, yaaron - wedding, kidnapping, gunda-ing, phasi, naach girls, "RK aaenge - zaroor aaenge",  "Nahi-Balraj-Nahiii", mortal wound, Trishna-Madhu shoutfest, dispelling of RK's guilt, fastest track court and fast-fastest track trial ever...phew!  When do we come up for air?  Oh, right...at a...picnic?  The CV's are bipolar - no wonder they understood RK so well.

I did read carefully what everyone had written about the trial - seems that some liked the scene, some not so much.  Some appreciated the social messages, some found them heavy-handed.

I found I was agreeing with Gurtiluv - this was no trial.  As I understand it (I had to go read up on this as I found earlier I was really ignorant about Indian trial law - thank you Shri for moving me in the right direction!), almost nothing that was shown today would even have approached proper procedure. Before you get out the eggs and tomatoes, please let me say I am not trying to be a boring realist, picking out little bloopers in shows to prove I know better!LOL   But I just really felt the scene was way off.  They used it so blatantly as a social platform that, for me, it fell flat.  It seemed to me the writers were bending over backward to be topical, to make sure they mentioned all news bulletins of the day to show social relevance. It became like a political rally.

And the strange thing is, these things need discussion so very badly.  Somehow, though, put into Madhu's speech, the subject matter seemed somehow diminished and melodramatised.

I don't know...  Did anyone else have this feeling?

By dramacrazy12
@ Bold...exactly what I felt too. I am not against sending out a much needed social message but then do it with conviction and delicacy. Don't stick it in there to create drama or appease the channel. I felt like Madhu was getting ready to run for election. She should have stuck to domestic abuse and girl infanticide which were the backbone of the case.
 
On a different note Padmini rather than Madhu would have been a better spokesperson to drive the message home since she has lived through the abuse. The standing ovation and clapping was OTT.
 
The trial- the less said...the better ...it was a mockery of judicial system. I understand the need for drama but atleast do it the right way...

Originally posted by 0-SD-0

RK to Media

Aap ya aapki News Channel, Zindagi Bhar ke liye, mere quotes(?) aur interviews se door nahin rahna chaahte, to aap log is tarah moonh band karenge, jaise ki aapne kabhi bolna seekha hi nahin...
ROFL ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL
I have yet to see a superstar who can publicly pull that off with media. In Madhubalaland RK seems to be paste of superstar, billionaire businessman, avid gamer, stuntsman, politician...

Originally posted by Savz_uniqueblis

 if rk would ve known madhu will defend her mom case then rk would ve applied for it tat they will defend their own case n some money would ve been saved LOL
by SD
Savz,

Doing the EOD Summary. What you say here and if I look at Zorica's poster, WOW!!!! what a match !!!! No need of defence counsel...seriously, RK these days keeps making incorrect estimates  WinkROFL. Do you all think, if they will show anything now that Trishna is left with 20 lakhs money from Balraj. And what happens to Balraj's remaining property ?

Well, if they can forget Sikky and Kuku's theft of jewellery from Dipali's safe, they can set aside how Roma got released from Balraj's den and how Trishna got to know about RK being her indirect producer, they can forget about this money too.

BTW, lemme tell you all how I made peace with  "HOW TRISHNA got to know that RK was sponsoring her or helping Balraj"
How ?
Remember, Balraj said over phone to RK..."Damaadji, Paay Laago...Hum Balraj Singh Choudhry, Trishna Beti ke Producer".
So Trishna might have pieced this info with her seeing RK and Bittuji at her maiden photoshoot with BSC Productions. As her brain was over-active to find a way out of her mess, she was able to piece this unlike Madhu, who was a TUBELIGHT and she was unable to discern, why Balraj spoke about Trishna Beti with RK...

I was not satisfied with my digging, I wanted Trishna to verbalize it...khair, CVs were in such a rush, that poor Trishna and Roma did not get their chance to tell, how T found out and how R got released. Unhappy