Episode 167 Discussion: 11th Jan 2013

Padmini aur Shamsher ki Shaadi ki Tareekh pakki ho gayi - 23rd Jan 2013

Episode 167 Discussion: 11th Jan 2013

Events of the Episode

Episode had minor shooting bloopers visible. DD strolling around with Mehndi scenes even before Mehdi Hassan applied Mehndi on her hands. Otherwise, kudos to CVs for seamlessly building in other scenes along with VD scenes in these VD vacation days!  

1. Episode starts with Madhu strolling in to her maternal home and seeing her Deedu and her mother going about their chores in silence. Roma is shown walking towards her brother's apt after living thru the fiasco she had with Trishna's hidden money ka barsaat on her. She wants to question Trishna about it, but before she can do that, she sees the Pandit.
2. Pandit gives the date of 23rd Jan for Padmini and Shamsher's wedding.
3. Madhu and Trishna arrange for Mehndi and Sangeet ceremony for their parents. Padmini and shamsher look beautiful and so the two daughters and Roma in their respective attires. All look simple and yet gorgeous for the occassion.
4. Mehndi Hassan the henna wallah is sent by RK for the Mehndi ceremony. He adorns Padmini's hands and later also applies over Madhu; his chaand Biwi's hands.
5. RK calls Madhu to the sets where he is shooting to take the gift that he planned to give the bride and the groom. Madhu goes.
6. RK is shooting a romantic scene. Madhu and RK are feeling uncomfortable; at her watching him doing his romantic scenes with his heroine and him doing the romantic scene with her around the set. RK was visibly affected by her presence at the set watching him do his romantic scenes. The attempt to disperse the awkwardness between them is beautiful to watch...RK: Tum itni Chup kyon ho (why are you so silent)? Madhu: Infact, Tum kuch bol nahin rahe (you are not talking). 
7. Madhu offers to go away as she was affecting his work. RK holds her back, gives the gift planned and sees the mehndi on her hands. Praises her beautiful hands and again lost in her eyes (RK's goner now!)...episode ends

Episode Review - My take

Are Bol Radha Bol, Sangam Hoga ki Nahin ?!!

Interesting episode with a lot of foreboding for the D'Day which is 23rd Jan.

Targets being fixed for the date are:

• Active - Padmini- Shamsher wedding
• Passive - Madhu and RK's wish to finish the rest of the three pheras in that wedding for that becomes the reason for Mehndi Hassan lamenting that he could not apply henna for Madhu for her marriage and pat comes MAdhu's reply that he can now and she remembers RK's waada to her that they shall get married in full.

Although nothing can stop them wishing for these events, Balraj has his plans for the D'Day to kill his Chaudhrain and his Vinaashbala. Question...how will he get to know the date of the marriage ? I wonder !  And the precap, seems to have dampened the mood for Rishbala...Sigh !!!

And another foreboding...already Madhu and RK are feeling uncomfortable at her watching him doing his romantic scenes with his heroines and him doing the romantic scenes with her around the set. Hmmm! their love affecting his work.

Seems Trishna had to patch up with Madhu for Mehndi and Sangeet ceremony, to avoid her heavy brooding on her signing the film with Balraj...and that brooding is already tipping Roma that something is definitely wrong.

And the beautiful people of the Day - Padmini and Shamsher

Both of them were looking so beautiful and handsome. And Shamsher with his awesome smile had me Oooh when he smiled and said, "Shaadi bhi nahin hui, aur abhi se Var aur Vadhu". He is one HAPPY MAN!!!! 

The attempt to disperse the awkwardness between Rishbala was beautiful to see...RK: Tum itni Chup kyon ho (why are you so silent)? Madhu: Infact, Tum kuch bol nahin rahe (you are not talking). Yeah! Madhu reminded me that usually it is him who talks all the way and does everything.

RK was visibly affected by her presence at the set watching him do his romantic scenes. Now I wonder why would that happen. It is natural that Madhu feels discomfort  that she is having to watch him holding someone else than her (can I risk saying envious...because that is a genuine and honest feeling...even I couldn't watch any other female with Andrew )...but why was he is so hesitant and disturbed ? So does RK's heart actually flutter nowadays when he sees Madhu? 

Until few days back...until he showed his dream house to Madhu and he saw her reaction to his will , Rishabh Kundra was all about "Madhu you are mine, I Love You and I know you Love me...No doubt about it"

At their dream house scene, he was overwhelmed by her concern and thought for him...remembering his dad's chair. And at the time of will in making scene, for the first time, she shut him to say, she loves him more than him and his ego not minding her having an upperhand. Though it never hurts us or Madhu for him to have an upperhand always, because he is so right in all cases considering the way he thinks and considering the way Madhu responds to him in an overall manner, it is actually pleasing for all of us to see that it does not hurt him anymore for him to listen to her, or have nothing to answer her back or show his attitude. This way it is a little bit healthy with balance being restored in their relationship, considering they are both good human beings. Much needed healthy balance between them...that can slowly fill up Rishabh's mind with security and slowly loosen himself...

Now is this losing bit by bit his ego, his insecurity when in love with Madhu, now causing him to feel all jittery in Madhu's presence ? There was a time, when Madhu was a goner. Today, we saw RK losing himself, his ground...he was being a goner in love with Madhu.

So how has their relationship progressed and what held it all along for them ?

Enigma, Sensitivity, Trust and Softness for Each Other

I would say, unknown phase, hate phase, knowing phase, of falling in love phase, they never had problem trusting each other. Infact of all things that they knew about each other was to trust each other in every manner about their selves inspite of having all the differences between each other. They never had doubts about each other's intents except the time when Madhu got caught in Kuku and Sikky's scheme to get RK's fathers pics published. Then RK was hurt and felt betrayed and yet he did not let her go. Likewise tomorrow, will be another day when RK gets caught with Dips ploy of love test for Madhu. Now Madhu will be hurt and felt betrayed. I am sure, she too will not let him go...because these two though hurt themselves, they cannot see the other person hurt and in pain. Then RK after avenging himself by getting Shamsher sign the contract, he became Madhu's doctor forcefully inspite of him too crying during the day. And now, we don't know what Madhu will do to RK, but question is will she be able to see him in pain.

And what will keep holding them together ? I guess the Enigma will get replaced by Knowledge and everything else shall remain the same...

By Zorica

Zorica,

The poster is beautiful and fabulous !!!  

I would like to use the word "Panoply"  for your poster that once Pippa used. I don't use this word 

It is indeed a Photo frame !!!! 

By Zorica

For the first time in this episode, from the beginning of the show, they behave like a young couple in love!    Finally!!!

Episode 161 Discussion: 4th Jan 2013

Shamsher professes his love for Padmini and Hauslon Se Veer Hoon Modified :)

Episode 161  Discussion: 4th Jan 2013

Events of the Episode

1. Padmini thinks over her past 20 years with Shamsher around her. She is disgusted of that red saree that reminds her of Balraj and his barbarity. 
2. Shamsher professes his love for Padmini, something that he realized just over the last two days at the prompting of his children, but now understands that he had been loving her for the last 20 years and can't  think of being separated from her and their kids. They are his life.
3. Padmini cherishingly eats the food cooked by Shamsher. Seems she is ready. Alas Shamsher is not to be seen around the next morning when she goes to thank him for the food prepared by him. Padmini runs madly over the Mumbai streets when she finds a letter informing her that Shamsher has left them for good.
4. RK makes Madhu chant her Hauslon se veer hoon mantra. But changes Apne maa ke sahaare to Apne RK ke sahaare, He too chants along with her and calling himself as Yoohin Balbeer hoon. Earlier, Padmini at the beginning of the episode too had chanted the mantra with Ishwar ke sahaare yoohin Balbeer hoon. In the precap, Balraj comes to the chawl and sees Padmini and Madhu. So sirening here that Balraj is set against a gearing up party of his foes (his wife, daughter and their beaus).

Respites first.

Again the contrived clunk. Padmini calls her SAGI DAUGHTER first that Malik is gone and not her elder, unmarried and living with her STEP DAUGHTER !!!! Gross partiality or SO OBVIOUSLY contrived clunk by CVs to have Balraj see Madhu along with Padmini.

The way Padmini ran in that jet speed manner, again the insensitive me was hilariously laughing. Tomorrow its going to be fun.

Zorica,You got it. Though Shamsher did not offer any marriage to Padmini, he did speak about his love for her. Well she was not even ready to hear him... but she did hear him.

Review

Hearing Shamsher's feelings, when he said..."main bahta hi chala gaya..." I was remembering this song which I head in various dance shows and on radio...Behne de mujhe behne de. I searched on YouTube. Found that it is from Raavan. 

Undoubtedly the episode had to be watched for Shamsher professing his love for Padmini. And the song I earlier was mentioning does express Shamsher's pent up feelings for Padmini. Him saying...yes, really what is the relationship between us? was really honorable of him. Because as a man he needed to tell that to the woman whom he loved. If it was hidden, there was no need to tell. But as it had come out in the open, there was no point not saying it. If he had not it would have been something to be ashamed of between the two. I loved the contrast...Padmini reminiscing her life with Shamsher, her throwing away her red saree in disgust, remembering the barbarity of Balraj...and her mixed tears of pleasure and pain with recalled memories against Shamsher's serene and proud face. That was such a beautiful sight to see. If only Padmini had been seeing the face, how the man who loved her felt so proud to be in love with her and lived his life happily without thinking of anything else...so lost in her and her children's happiness.  She would have been in seventh heaven! She actually was. Which woman would not feel like to be loved, cared and treated as everything. Such a contrast from the man she had to wed !!!! Such a vast difference. How would she resist this love? Doesn't that tempt her ? Well I don't know if she will ever get tempted by Shamsher's selflessness and his love for her, but certainly her respectful regard for him won over her and she was so lovingly appreciating the food he brought for her.

Now...the clunk...

Why would the proud man, who was beaming with such a smile and professing his love...leave his woman in distress like that?  That "Ghor chod ke jaana drama" was totally CLUNK. Because Shamsher's face was showing the promise that he would be able to woo his woman in due time. But alas CVs and their dramas. That leaving and Padmini running on roads on Mumbai Mahanagar...is just distasteful.  If Shamsher's face was serious and matter of fact mannered and if he had not cooked food for Padmini, then his leaving would have made sense to me. So clunk plot for clunk drama.

The very private and precious moment between Padmini and Shamsher.

To me...as I watched it, I felt that it was Padmini the hunted woman delivering an unwanted baby girl for her husband...being supported by a stranger, a man, who did look handsome in that hospital...him signing as the baby's father. Its really an odd place to be in for Padmini, but if she chose to forget everything in the name of formality and protocol, she had everything in that moment. A woman after giving birth to a baby when she becomes a mother, she altogether becomes a different person. She is the happiest in her new providing state to the baby and yet when she sees a man standing besides her, I guess she might naturally feel proud about it.

Disclaimer...I am not a mother. So i might not be accurate there. No offence meant to mothers here. You are welcome to correct me in my understanding of that scene. Just that my womanly instincts made me feel so.

Now the other thing I liked today...the three variations of the Hauslon se Veer hoon chanting

Padmini chants for herself

Hauslon se veer hoon

Sankaton mein Dheer hoon

Dushmano ki Bheer hoon

Apne Ishwar ke sahaare, Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

RK made Madhu chant

Hauslon se veer hoon

Sankaton mein Dheer hoon

Dushmano ki Bheer hoon

Apne RK ke sahaare, Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

RK chanted for himself

Hauslon se veer hoon

Sankaton mein Dheer hoon

Dushmano ka Bheer hoon

Bas Yoohin Balbeer hoon

The way I see it is ...all three set againt Balraj...the Dushman

Padmini by invoking her Ishwar, is going to get Shamsher as her defender.

And RK by making Madhu chant him as her sahara, he became her defender

And he personally has set himself against Balraj.  He is not seeking anyone's support.

So RK will beat Balraj at his own game.

The episode started with Padmini chanting it, then RK making Madhu chant and him  getting included in their inner circle...And in precap scene Balraj makes an entry...with that looking at the chawl gate and seeing Padmini, followed by Madhu. Structurally it was a smooth foreboding of coming events. The women are sure going to be petrified. But only they have to fight now, they will have to be joined by their men as well...because Balraj is that formidable and once again Padmini set the ball rolling with collecting supporters to her side. She will once again have Shamsher and this time her married daughter will have her husband to take care of her. The drama just became more interesting.

Though the chanting of the prayer by Madhu and RK upon RK's prodding was more in line of RK's Pain relieving Technique employed by him to boost his Biwi's morale as was felt by both him and his mother per the Reconciliation and Fixing before Leaving track. The scene ends with the couple shown as very much in love with Madhu saying "RK I love you" to which RK responds "Me Too. I Love Me" Its cute the way RK in the same moment shows of his attitude to his Biwi and also professing that he is no different from what his wife thinks.

Now few asides

Shamsher = Bhupinder Singh = Dharmender Paaji. Gosh!! Can Bhupinder reduce his Dharam paaji teepna ?

Other Reviews

By Priya over RK and Radhaji Scene

However, I liked the fact that RK has actually warmed up to Radha with no influence from Madhu. He went on to surprise Radha who called out his name and then held back thinking that he would not listen to her only to ask her what was she going to say and on top of that acknowledge her request to take care of distressed Madhu by gently nodding his head. I loved his smirk/grin that followed after Radha leaving their room, which basically meant that he knows exactly how to handle Madhu and put her at ease.

By pnars

I liked the episode, in fact all the epis thi week. Smooth flow, good acting, no jarring stuff (mostly).

I like how comfortable our superstar and his biwi are - ribbing each other, occasional tiffs, but always, always there is love. This is how it should be, hai na? Whenever that separation happens its going to be terribly wrenching for us, and for them. They are so settled in their life now.

Padmini-Shamsher: grounded couple, she's taking more time than him to come around. Not surprising,mconsidering she's got an abusive marriage behind her. She's happy with the status quo. She'll come around soon enough.

The scene of the day today for me was Shamsher's love confession for Padmini. It was straightforward, no-nonsense, real- just like him.

As for Ballu's realization in the precap - bring it on!

By Zorica

Precap!

  

Sorry, but I needed to comment on this way!

By Tanu

A nice and honest episode.

The dilemma of Padmini was captured beautifully. She wished to snub the voices of her loved ones telling her that her relationship with Malik is beyond what they acknowledge… she might have succeed for a moment. What she couldn't help was the warmth that engulfed her when she allowed herself a walk down memory. The knowledge of probably sharing something so divine with Malik, a relationship that sheltered and nourished their children was enough to repulse the memory of Ballu. The sari cropped up between her memories of her happy family and she threw it as if it didn't belong with them. The way she threw the sari, a sari that symbolised her commitment to another man… you could see she was finally liberated. She continued to gaze at a piece of paper that started off the most important relationship when Malik walked in, calm and composed just the way she knew him. His silent strength has always been her greatest support system and today was going to be no different… she was about to make another important decision in her life… it was going to be Malik who made the final break through as it should have been. It had to be her love for him and no other pressure that would have made her accept Malik as a companion.

What followed was a beautiful scene… a scene which was as natural as it could get and as sincere as emotions they truly felt for eachother. Padmini got worked up the moment she saw Malik had injured himself only to restrain herself when she realised she couldn't justify her concern. Malik's confession was so wonderful… hats off to the creative who wrote the scene… to begin with it suited their age, it took into consideration their 20 years of togetherness… it was beautiful… simple, heartfelt and honest. He began by saying how he didn't bother about anything when Padmini and the kids chanced upon him and slowly became his reason to live. He was content to go with the flow… because life had never been beautiful, never was worth a thought before they came into his life. He was coaxed to think of this relationship after so many years (Thank you, RK!) and has now found an answer. I loved the way he worded his emotions 'yeh rista vishwas, samaan ka hai, aur meri taraf se pyar ka hai'. The word 'pyar' can out as an equal to words 'vishwas' and 'samaan' which they have all  along acknowledged, it came out with the same dignity the latter two deserved.  I have always loved Malik as a father, but today I love him for the person he is. From the time he has been confronted of his love for Padmini he has never denied or demeaned it… he has been exceptionally dignified. And today even as he confessed, as clear as he was about his emotions for Padmini he also made it clear that these emotions are his, only his. Not once during the confession, he asked her to reciprocate… his only agenda was to retain the honesty in their relationship, she deserved to hear the truth because it concerned her. His only wish was he didn't want to be left alone, without her, without the kids.             At the end he made sure she understood that her happiness was all that mattered to him and he will pray for that.

RK would be immensely impressed with his sasurji talking his advise seriously…I can so imagine him seeting maroing for his fave lovestory and his real life superstars.  

If Malik's confession was beautiful… I have no words to describe the scene that followed. Padmini's walk to the food was her realisation, her acknowledgement of her love for Malik. The walk was marked with slight hesitancy in her steps but she was drawn towards as if it was her ultimate destination. There was so much of tenderness when she picked up the burnt, hard roti because Malik has prepared it. She took a bite and cherished it… there was a sense of urgency to take the second bite aswell.. it was almost like the 20 years gone by was too much time lost. The privacy in the moment was what enhanced the scene so much more. Padmini was given that space to enjoy the feeling of being loved as a woman.  It was a moment so rare for her… experiencing your love and the love of you man for the 1^st time… there was happiness and relief that only a heart who has finally got home will feel. Again the beauty of the scene was its simplicity… it didn't have to have loud dialogues, confrontation or the camera going crazy to mark it as a momentous event… It concentrated on Padmini-Malik and their heartfelt emotions. Pallavi took the scene to a completely different level.

RK-Madhu scene was adorable. Another moment when RK scored a brownie… can Madhu please have some??? It was such a wonderful way to wake Madhu up when she is feeling down and low. He held her hand to remind her of her inner strength that helped her see his devilish avtar through. It is moments like that you realise why 'junoon' is a part of the title… He wanted to tell her he is always by her side… but he chose to reword her prayer with him being an integral part of it. Typical! A nice cosy scene… what I liked it Madhu snuggled back into the bed… she didn't get into her patnidarm duties running off to get his tea/coffee/juice! And RK finished with a flourish in reply to her 'I love you…', 'Me too…I love me'! There is never a dull moment with him around.

Padmini was back home I suppose because she walked in with empty plates… obviously she would get home and cook.  Can someone please present Malik with a cupboard… the man has been living out of a suitcase and an ancient one at that! And what on earth was that letter… after that wonderful confession… Malik chose to leave? Doesn't make sense at all.  It better be a prank by RK/Roma/Trishna… anyone, not Malik. Even if it is Malik's I think he might have written after he returned from jail for having attacked RK and Padmini was upset with him. He cant probably write that now. As expected Padmini was hysterical…. Lets see what happens trow.

Trow doesn't sound very good with Ballu getting to know about Padmini and Madhu.

By Ananya

Wow! 

So, Malik heeds to his damad's advice and decides to open up his heart to Padmini. Another win for RK.

I loved Maliks confession. It was really an honest and heartfelt confession. What disappointed me was his disappearance act after confessing his feelings. My thoughts might not be in agreement to most of you here. But, I have never been a supporter of this theory called-'Confess your love, run away and let the other person ponder over it'. It torments the person left behind. They are let dumbfounded as to what to do with all these emotions. It does not matter whether they reciprocate the feelings or not. But, it is unfair to vent out your emotions and do a disappearing act on your loved one. 

There were discussions on yesterday's ED thread, that Malik is embarrassed of his feelings and hence might choose to leave everything behind. But he confessed his feelings with pure honesty with no trace of embarrassment. Then why disappear?

May be as the discussion progresses on this thread, I will come to terms with Maliks decision.

I loved Padmini's realization and the way she was reminiscing those 20 years, while savoring the food prepared by Malik.

RK-Madhu scene was good. So now MAA in Madhu's prayer has been replaced by RK. Interesting!! Yeh to hona hi tha. Ab to Madhu ki puri zindagi me RK hi RK hai, to ek prayer kya cheez hai!!  So its first time after the confession night that, Madhu says 'I love you RK' and RK replies with 'me too'.(I love me) I was happy(I would say more of relieved), when RK did not say 'I love you' to Madhu. It would have been very very unRKish saying 'I love you' randomly early in the morning. Good that he is still retaining his cheek.

I am not sure if any of you felt the same, but some how today in the RK-Radha scene, for the first time I felt that may be Radha genuinely cares for Madhu and hence asks RK to take of her. And, I sensed that deep down RK was immensely pleased with the concern his mother is showing for his wife.

Precap: Looks like Bittuji has also sent his brain on vacation. What provokes him to bring his psychopath business partner to the heroines home? I am sure RK will be furious if he comes to know of this. And this time looks like Ballu has spotted Padmini and Madhu, though he will not recognize the later as his daughter. So, lets gear up for the action now!!!

By Zoya

Sasur ne daamaad ki guzarish accept kiya and pahunche Padmini ke paas apne pyar ka izhaar lekar:)

Baap-Beti follow the same funda to confess their feelings-"Insan ke dil tak ka raasta uske pet se guzarta hai"

Malik's confession was too good. Fabulous dialogues were given to him and he delivered them with the right emotion. The emphasis on "Aap aur bache" gave the right punch and power to his confession.

Padmini was brilliant today in the first half of the episode. First, when she threw away the "red saree" in disgust when she was having heart-warming thoughts about Malik n her kids. Wasn't that the same saree she had taken it out on her KC?

Her sudden outburst of concern at seeing Malik injured and then trying to get a grip on her emotions and she turning away from him.

Lastly, when she was eating the Malik ke haath ka khana. 

Today, seeing this entire scene, I just got reminded of the scene the day Madhu comes to her maayka for 2 days and she had told Madhu that "RK teri bohut parwah karta hai...Ek ladki ke liye isse badhkar aur kya chahiye hota hai ki uska pati shows concern..." Pads today would have felt the love and care by Malik not for the mother of their children but for the woman inside her ,who craves to be loved by a man.

RK-madhu scene was as usual nice and neatly done:) RK instills back the confidence in her and tells her to gear up for good times. Is this Malik absconding one of RK's idea? 

Pads running around the streets of Mumbai was truly not  my taste followed by calling Madhu from the PCO.. Chalo thoda bohut they have to go the soapy way...

Precap: Ballu seeing Pads and Mads...

After seeing the precap, I again remembered RK's words to his Biwi.

RK: Biwi, ab tak jo bhi drama hua, use bhool jao---- I was like, ya biwi, aaj ek naye drama ki shuruat hone wali hai.

RK: Aaj ka din sab kuch badlega--- I was like, haan Madhu aaj se toh sab ki solidly lagne wali hai..

RK:Sab kuch achcha hoga---- Kiske liye? Kahin Ballu ke liye toh nahi.. 

My response to other reviewers

Originally posted by MarathiMulgi

He takes courage in his hands and talks to Padmini about his feelings, his life before and after he met her and the girls. I wish she had the courage to turn around to see the emotions on his face during his confession. Indeed he is a strong man who did not resort to any theatrics but put it very plainly to her. His dialogues were felt from the heart, not filmy at all. In his own way he told her apne dil ki baat and left it up to her to do what she thinks and feels the best. Either way he is and remains their well wisher.

Aonther cute scene between Madhu and RK -

Loved the prarthana today and change in the line where "Apni Ma ke sahare" is now replaced by "Apne RK ke sahare". Does that mean RK has now replaced that position in Madhu's life and that is what RK is trying to tell her that she can trust him completely?    A couple of times he said in between these past 2 episodes ki aaj ka din bohot acchha jayega. Lekin kis ke liye?

MM

@bold

Me too. I too felt the same

Priya,

Loved your review...precap excluded.

And thanks for raising the point...the viewers need to be advised about the legal standpoints of Padmini's previous marriage and why it can be considered defunct now...before Balraj makes an entry to raise the question. I want the characters involved prepared in advance for their marriage with all baggages dropped and not be shown on national TV as if they were dumbos not to resolve this thing without Superstar RK's enlightenment. I don't want the Maliks and Chaudhry's to be shown as not caring to be knowing enough...

Zorica,

Your pictorial commentary over the precap... RFOL!!!

Tanu,

OMG!!! You felt the same. Agreed on everything and especially the last one. Shamsher the man who professed that love for Padmini could never be the one who bunks now. NOoo!!! 

Loved your review.  We agree on the Man, the Woman and the private moments between the two...though I chose to make another moment reminisced by Padmini as the most private moment. May be I should rephrase my post, by changing private to divine moment and confess love to profess love...will do after I am done with reading all the posts.

Ananya,

You too felt the same...that Shammu darling couldn't have bunked. Chalo...then that's pure clunk from CV's. Loved your review too. Agree on everything...inclusive of Rads and Rishu darling scene.

Zoya,

Your opening statements were simply LOL!!!   

Your closing statements were RFOL!!! 

Beautiful. 

And the body of post...I agree. Now I am quite bored to write...that I am loving everyone's posts. So we all felt the same. scratching my head here...Did Malik actually leave ? Is it a prank or Clunk ? God!!! they won't get viewer rating if they show clunk like that. Almost everyone agrees here, the man could not have left after professing his love.

Episode 159 Discussion: 2nd Jan 2013

When Slap grows heavier than the Prank.

Daamad ne Saasuma se mazaak kiya to Saasuma ne Daamaad ko thappad mara!

Episode 159 Discussion: 2nd Jan 2013

Events of the Episode

1. Padmini and Shamsher's love for each other comes out in the open as each of them reveal their true states of overwhelming emotion felt for each other when they hear that the other is extremely hurt.
2. The prank had been played by RK on Padmini and Shamsher as a hoax accident call placed to either. Both the daughters are witness to this drama. Padmini slaps RK at the prank played on them.
3. RK does not mind it, apologizes to the entire family for the prank played by him, and especially to Padmini. Then he goes on to explain that it was necessary for him to play it otherwise, his sasurjee and saasuma would never have accepted their feelings and regard for each other. He asks them to think over it and give a meaning to their relationship.
4. Trishna is upset that her her mother has been distressed. She asks RK to stop interfering in her parents lives. RK asks her to keep herself away as well as she need not interfere or influence her parents lives and it is their decision to marry or not.
5. Padmini and Shamsher do a lot of soul searching in the night as they think over the incident and how it brought forth all their hidden emotions for each other.
6. At night Madhu and RK, equally disturbed and happy at days events, agree that they caused distress to Madhu's parents, but also see the hope that they will come around in due time. They seek solace in each other's company to get the draught of happiness being supportive to each other. In the process RK takes down two of the pillows from their Deewar.

Episode Review

Wow ! I had a hearty laughter at the drama today. I know @real; other viewers sitting with me would have been irritated at my laughing at the Malik ... Padmini ...Malik ...Padmini yells...the closeness and then the thappad...It was supposed to be a serious drama and I was laughing. 

Anyways, they tried to make the episode a masaaledaar one. And the dramatics used that entertained me were:

1. the dead cat aka the scarf around the neck is back. Costume changes.
2. Trishna got spat at. Forgive my language! but ek bigda hua doosri bigdi hui ki acchi class le li. Didn't you all enjoy ?
3. They gave a Rishbala hug for viewers...I did not care much for this one
4. Radha the Gate-keeper  :) She was doing her honest duty there. Feeling sleepy and yet keeping her watch.
5. the two dogs being sent to the kennel.

Will give a B+

Now serious analysis

The Prank played by Rishabh Kundra - The planner and Executor for his Sasurjee-Saasuma Love Realization

Loved the drama. Needed drama. The whole family got played upon by RK. Each of the two daughters accompanying the parent to witness the drama of love coming out in the open. RK was lucky to have Trishna sitting at home when he played the prank. The prank was answered by a slap by Padmini. Very normal reaction there. And RK apologizes profusely to Padmini for his prank. What was more interesting is RK then finishing his part of the drama to make his saasuma and sasurjee realize that he did what they should have done long time back. He unabashedly tells them that "had not I played the prank you would never have told each other what conspired today, what we spoke to you about today."  He makes Shamsher answer his close looped questions which is pretty much like...oh! so why do you then crucify me for speaking out the truth. Both Padmini and Shamsher could not say anything.

The other dramas interesting to watch around the scene were 

• how both the daughters were surprised to see so much of overwhelming concern and love between their mother and father. They were taken aback at Padmini holding Shamsher quite closely and saying...I would have died had something happened to you...haha!!! the girls were like two kids...where did it come from ?

• How RK was being pleaded by his Biwi and Sasurjee to keep quiet and he vehemently saying no...that today, the moment is not to stop it. All ganged up there. Loved it.

• And how Trishna got verbal slap from RK. Oh! I loved it for the fact that ek bigda hua doosri bigdi hui ki acchi class le li. Didn't you all enjoy ? Loha hi loha ko kaata hai types. Do badtameez asking each other to stay away  from their parents. 

"Dil todna aur dil dukhane ki baaten tumhaare moonh se acchi nahin lagti. Tum in sab cheezon se doo raho to hi accha hai"

If this is going to be the jeeja-saali relationship between RK and Trishna, I am gonna enjoy it.  LOL!!

Roma's apt and interiors and the scenes

And finally they showed us how Roma's apt looks like. We got to see the interiors. Not bad!! Right ?? Nowadays the clunk from CVs is paying up...Used the flat to have Shamsher sit there  on the chabootra (I could not see of which tree it was) right in front of Roma's chawl apt. So that a little more of Padmini and Shamsher is seen by us. 

I won't blame Trishna's behaviour back in chawl. She is just being a possessive child, who doesn't want anything to happen to her mother, as she cannot lose her. So anything that makes her happy is fine by her, if that means bad mouthing her prank playing daamad or her muted second daughter. Whatever I am enjoying Trishna and her tantrums against RK and Madhu.

 CVs please show some entertaining drama between Trishna and RK in the upcoming marriage ceremony sequences. If the two bigde hue take each other's class, it would look to me as at least some barriers being closed between the two and she too becomes part of RK's family. Trishna is being unnecessarily kept away from the family drama.

Faisle ki ghadi aa gayi (The moment has come to decide)

Padmini and Shamsher now neither seem to be embarrassed nor hesitant. They know. But for both of them its the time...the time is pressing upon them to decide. And more so on Padmini as Shamsher is going to be with her no matter what she decides. This was the Aww moment for me when it suddenly dawns on Padmini looking at Shamsher outside the window, him getting upto to come after her when the window pane hits her and how he stops himself.

The precap scene

Radha the Gate-keeper  :) She was doing her honest duty there. Feeling sleepy and yet keeping her watch. Madhu blurted out that RK got slapped. From the precap scene, I could see that Padmini and Radhaji both were coming out of the temple together. So this means...Radhaji has a part to play in convincing Padmini... have to wait and watch.

And finally the couple in Love

This was not at all forced to me. Each of them were seriously thinking of the day's events. And RK wanted to share his feelings with his wife.  Starts chatting and she too responds. He is happy for the efforts made and believes that they will have success. And the talk just leads them on to empathize again about their relationship. The way they forget the rest of the drama and are again lost in each other, is what made it special for me...its like the goner moment.  Its like now you cannot stop the two love birds. And gone are two dogs in between the two. The dogs might be wailing aloud!!!  

The legal implications need to be clarified

Now I have the LOGICAL QUESTION that CVs have not taken pains to show it to me that their ORCHESTRATOR (RK) has thought about seeking legal clarities on Padmini's old marriage dissolution.

Its fine that Shridevi knows about it...but what about rest of Indian junta ? 

They might all be thinking how can Padmini marry Shamsher by remaining married to Balraj ? So who will BELL THE CAT now ? Someone needs to ASK this question ALOUD and all the viewers need to be answered .

Others take

By Zorica over RK the Planner and Executor

RK marked the beginning of episode: shock therapy!

Good acting RK, Padmini, Malik, but the scenography is more like a theater. I know it's RK idea to control the conditions in which the unfolding drama, but it bothered me. He did not want to be in a public place - I think that because of slap was expecting. LOL!

RK marked the end of the episode: gentle therapy!

Gentle and caring, as only he knows how to be! 

By Ananya

Brilliant is the word.

I am enjoying this 'Padmini-Ek Ishq Ek Junoon'  from the past few episodes. At least, Padmini's character seems to make lot more sense to me than Madhu's. 

It was heart touching to see the two souls who had suppressed their feelings for each other for the past 20 years, reach out to each other with volcano of emotions erupting in each at the thought of other being in peril. What tugged at my heart was the fact that, the two were completely lost in each other. In that moment, nothing else mattered to them. It didn't matter that their daughters were around witnessing them. All they cared about was that the other was safe. The terror in their eyes, for the other being in mortal peril, the sense of relief to see each other unharmed, and once that appeased a sudden realization, that in that one moment their nameless relationship might have reached a stage from where there is no looking back. All the plethora of emotions was very very well done. Kuods to the actors here. 

I dont ever remember any  CVs portraying the love story of supporting characters so beautifully.

Trishna's reaction was what I expected. If Madhu was not ready to accept this thought immediately, it would be unfair of us viewers to demand that Trishna should have reacted differently and supported the marriage. At that particualar instant, all she could see was this plan of RK's has caused a lot of distress to her parents. It is understandable. 

Now the much hyped slap, I am simply amazed by RK. It just shows the lengths he could go for the sake of his loved ones. He truly sees a mother in Padmini and hence had no qualms in getting slapped by her. Same goes with Padmini. She is not a person who would go around slapping people unless she exerts rights on them.(Quite unlike madhu, who did not hesitate in slapping RK in front of his whole crew)

The best scene has to be the chawl scene, where Padmini asks to be left alone. Through her eyes, she pleads Malik to understand and he does. What more understanding can we demand from two people in love? And then again, when they look at each other through the window, padmini hurts and in an instant Maliks wants to run to her, but still gathers the courage to hold himself.

I loved how RK said that he understands the importance of a husband-wife relationship, and hence wants them to get married. Loved how he silenced Trishna, asked her to keep quiet when it comes to matters of heart. It was very wise of him to put those two questions in front of mailk-padmini, answers to which he already knew. All he wanted was padmini to listen to those answers from malik. (RK will always come up with new ways to make me fall more for him..)

Now coming to madhu, she disappointed me today. Both in studio scene and with Radha scene. I expected her to support her husband, not with his plan, but with his intention behind it. How can she manage to be quiet throughout the entire scene is beyond me, especially when Trishna accuses RK of interfering in her parents' personal matter. She should have defended her husband there. Instead, what she does, goes home and cries on Radha's shoulder that her mom slapped her husband. Why? What purpose does that serve? We were not even shown properly how Radha reacts to it, and to be frank I dont care. But madhu has to learn to keep the matters between her and RK to herself, especially matters as sensitive as this.

I would like to end this very long post on the happy thoughts of the romantic elements in today's episode. Loved how RK hugged her in the studio. Finally he rested his head on hers during a hug. Loved how  RK said, 'galti karne ki mafi hoti hai, par koshish na karne ki mafi nai hoti'. Very true, and applicable to all aspects of one's life..

Pillows going down, him asking her to rest her head on his hand, all of it was beyond cute.

By Myself - Why the need for Madhu to inform Radhaji that Padmini slapped RK

@Ananya, Liked your post. Every word of it.

That does not mean that I did not like all the other reviews. I did. Its just that Ananya's narrative was flowing with her emotion of elation. 

Zoya,

You have been upset with Madhu for being indiscrete and telling Rads that Padmini slapped RK. Thing is...Its not character Madhu's fault.

If you remember, Madhu is discrete when she wants to. She chooses to tell what she wants to Rads. She doesn't tell everything. Its like ...Madhu shows the facts of the matter as a painting and presents it to Radha. She did not tell what was the fight about when Rads saw RK angry with Madhu at the dining table. She told all was well between her and RK upon returning from the farmhouse.

So its not just Madhu who uses discretion of informing per her mind. It is CVs through her. Remember this is Madhubala: Ek Ishq Ek Junoon. Its Madhu who has to drive the story. So she acts with CVs mind. All the other characters become catalysts to her created drama with her main antagonist being Rishabh Kundra. This is needed to always keep the tension between Mads and RK, otherwise the Ishq and Junoon will not come. For the junoon to show up, the conflict through Madhu at times and through RK at other times has to be there.

Anyways cutting short my ramble...what I am saying is that

today MAdhu informed Rads that Padmini slapped RK. It means that there is a purpose behind it. The CVs have planned something. Going my Madhu's character, she is being truthful to her saasuma. Because Padmini should not have slapped her Damaad. Now the viewers, RK, Padmini and Mads understand it...but the voice of tradition also need to be pacified. Right ? So CVs are making it look moralizing and sanctioning through Madhu that yes, the storytellers know that Padmini committed an offence and hence the panic stricken face from Shamsher, Trishna and Madhu. But who cares in reality. :)) As long as RK the hero is happy with the result, no one needs to bother what Mads or Rads thinks. We know the drama is going to be resolved tomorrow, hopefully with Rads as the older woman explaining Padmini that its okay to remarry ..as she too had remarried.

Now coming to Why they showed RK going all cold in his first response to Padmini's slap. That again is UN RKish. We just have to ignore that because CVs were trying to raise the emotional quotient of the scene by making us believe ...OHH!!!!!!!!! RK Pit gaya...AB use Gussa Aayega ...types.

Because of these impoverished clunks today to create drama, I wanted to give a B rating, but then gave it B+ because I didn't want to make it bad for the beautiful other moments of today's episode.

By Savz_uniqueblis  on TRISHNA

trishna is spolied brat but she is always treated like stranger to family, not included in family drama/decisions. pads-shammu n madhu seems more like family n trishna an outsider. seems she became like tat becos of neglected. she lost her own mother. her biological father is not nice to her. she didn't get mom-dad love frm pads-shammu so seems more taken care by roma, so she always feels tat she didn't get any love same like rk. rk n trishna in same boat. rk got madhu n trishna still not lucky. they can show nice story of trishna if cvs plans it, but trishna n ballu meeting many times,is it hinting any track btwn them. lets see .

By Soundarya and responded by myself

Originally posted by Soundarya22

A few points that struck me, they could be repetitive so pls bear with me:

• When RK and Madhu walk into their house, and they see Radhaji..RK tells her he's going upstairs. His face is not at all annoyed on seeing Radhaji, in fact, I thought he sort of indicated to Madhu to tell her what had happened..[SD] Agree. I felt the same. It was like he indicated to Madhu that you tell her why we are so late.
• Trishna's reaction was expected...it was the same first reaction that all of them had on hearing the proposal. Of course, her blaming madhu blindly  was unwarranted. She may come around given that there's been news about them dancing at the mehndi. 
• Will Trishna accept the offer just to get rid of Balraj? It is uncharacteristic of her, just when she should be telling people about his presence, she keeps quiet. Esp when this whole marriage thing coming up, how can paddy marry when she hasn't divorced Balraj, and he is back in the same city!! But this is the typical soap silent chaos  created just so that there can be a dramatic revelation two weeks later.[SD]: To me her keeping quiet now makes perfect sense. why ? No matter what Balraj should not see Padmini. Isn't it the survival reason why Shamsher staged the drama of her being killed. Else Balraj would never have stopped hunting them down. So she had split second decision to make ...by agreeing to do the cinema, she will have Balraj leave before either of them see each other. Now if there was  no Padmini-Shamsher marriage drama going on, logically she should be disclosing that Balraj is back in town. But she may again decide to let it slide as the marriage will not happen if the Balraj news is out. But yes, why No ONE is asking, how can Padmini marry a Shamsher without divorcing Balraj. Fine by law their marriage is non-functional...but how about ritualistic removal of her mangalsutra and sindhoor that Padmini is wearing in the name of Balraj. Shouldn't the woman at least look devoid with all marriage symbols from her previous marriage ? Questions galore my mind. But then I am willing to wait.
• The pillow removal scene was 3 seconds more than what they showed in the pre-cap!!! But then, I guess it was needed to show their increasing comfort with each other. If madhu was upset with the prank RK pulled, he wanted to show her he meant it in good faith, didn't mean to hurt anybody with it. And he wanted her to believe him, that's why he reached out and she understood. It was lovely...the silent understanding they have, the communication they have portrayed so beautifully.[SD]: Agree. Also did you notice the editing bloopers. MB's hand was already spread out for the entire length post pillow removal. And yet the last scene is shown as of she is giving out her hand now...

On an aside...I have already started writing to Colors to get them married quickly, how long will they love like this? It's terrifying to see the number of pillows remaining

[SD]: Good. 

Beginnings of the Ishqia Junooni Story of Rishbala

To me the most endearing moments of MEIEJ have been RK trying to away with accident case, end the MB Malik or Trishna Malik ...whoever it was who filed the case...then seeing MB Malik visiting his sets out of nowhere when he just tried to make a lampoon of her case over the press conf and she looked so damn out of his world...and him still trying to make heads and tails of it when he is taken by the Police to be spending his time in the Police custody for 4 days.

This is when he suddenly realizes that it is not the accident that he has to bother about...it isthis girl that he has to bother about...because not only she barged into his space, she has taken control of things around him. It is him being played around which is quite an UNKNOWN feeling for him, considering the man who is known to have things his way. He was unable to forgive her for getting registered in his mind. His Superstar aura would have let it go with all that power around him, had it not been for the public slights that he received at the hands of the media which reported that an ordinary girl took him down. This challenged the private man inside him and made him question why he failed to contain the issue. When did a witness became so personally involved rather than the injured/affected person. It was everything beyond his logic. And because, she was no one to him, it all the more nettled him. We can see in his musings of drinking and sculpting then, how he used to contemplate what it means. When he found no meaning at all, he just chose to destroy the person who had the audacity to start this frenzy, this nonsense. He might have abhorred every second of it what he was planning for MB's destruction as it never gave him the satisfaction of answering the big question...Why O Why this happened. Nevertheless, he continued to end her, because the RK persona started enjoying MB expressions around him.

And the all time Hall of Fame moments for me...was him RK Superstar proudly calling her and informing her that he ended her, then RK the Superstar getting slapped, then RK the Superstar getting hurt for that public humiliation, and the Rishabh Kundra the man once again asking himself where has it gone wrong again. Him drinking and watching the slaps again and again...Him...Rishabh Kundra realizing...that now its the situation of the Siamese Twins, He had been conjoined with MB. "Na Nigalte banta hai, na Ugalte Banta hai"  And the resolved Rishabh Kundra just gets up and goes to meet MB and propose marriage to her. The marriage proposal is so imprinted on my mind. Each and every line so right that even MB agrees to its correctness and breaks down by the end of it...Why O Why this had to happen ?

I just loved the man there...how when he realizes that their fates are intertwined in such a crazy manner, that he first makes it a meaningful relationship for society and media. In one single stroke, he cleanses the bad publicity he created for MB by planning to marry her. And then he chooses to isolate him and MB away from all the convention of the marriage so that each of them though conjoined together in Siamese twins fashion, will still be leading independent lives until they know what is all this. Only a highly intellectual mind can think of this...And it really does surprise him in course of days, that the girl who came into his life like a tempestuous wind is no tempest at all. This just leaves him baffled more and that anger when he tries to take it on her, she doesn't keep quiet and gives it back to him. And therein starts their journey together, knowing each other in friction and more so knowing themselves through each other. And with each realization about the other and about their own inner core, they start making peace with themselves and the other self.

That's why I liked that 4 phera marriage so much. Its almost a live-in relationship for them and yet that weight of being conjoined by force unknown to them...the sanction by God and Society and their rebel to it is kept alive in both of them; disallowing them to slide into conventional routine without true realization of why they have been brought together by fate like this...

The entire marriage sequence, post marriage hospital and RK Mansion scenes are the most memorable and meaningful scenes for me. The loud man and the silent woman. The active and passive voices of the same speech...for how many times you can see there them really having any disagreement?   They agree on everything though looking so different. 

By the end of Karva Chauth track, the 4 phera marriage loses its icy edge of having to be isolated from each other in thought; though conjoined as always. It gets the feeling, the warm feeling that starts to melt each other in the relationship they have. They both are happy to realize that they like each other and they start being happy about unexplored things about themselves...like MB falling in love to the point of effacing herself in his presence...like Rishabh knowing that he is still the feeling man and surprisingly it does not hurt him...

However what Rishabh Kundra again does not understand is what does it all mean ? There needs to have some meaning there ? Why did they have to meet in such gory manner ? Was it just for him to realize that he can love...yet again ? He can have something for himself ? Nowdays he is vacillating between being a happy and an insecure man...because he truly doesn't know why MB had been destined to be made part of his life. Even we don't know...Let's see where it goes... For now he thinks it was all for him and his new found happiness...May be that is not the case Rishabh Kundra. God has other plans for you two together...

Out of this ramble I decided that I am gonna capture various shades of this contemplating man.

  A man who like me has realized that his wife is this beautiful, innocent, ethereal personality and dumb with the ways of the world after all; contrary to what she should have been when she set out to take him to justice, and doesn't know herself why she loves him, but loves him deeply honoring their relationship...crazy as it sounds to him and us, but she makes him love her back, protect her, take her into his fold...