Showing posts with label Test of Love theme. Show all posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Episode 170 Discussion: 15th Jan 2013

RK-Radhaji ka Patch up and Dips-Madhu-RK ka Break up continued.

Events of the Episode
  • RK and Radhaji reconciliation achieved.  RK reaches the temple where Radhaji is praying. He calls her "Maa". Radha is elated. She sees RK's wound and wants to take him to the doctor, but RK stops her and tells "Main Thak gaya hoon". As RK puts his head over his mother's lap, Radhaji just asks him to keep quiet and sings the lullaby to put him to sleep like he used to be her kid. The lullaby is the Chanda Hai Tu song from Hindi 70's movie Aradhana. 
  • When later he wakes up, they discuss what went wrong between them, as in how he felt decieved/cheated for himself and his father when his mother remarried and Radhaji explains, how that was just a reason to give him a father figure and how she regrets taking that decision. She further tells him how she waited all these years, but hope to be with her son was given only by Madhu. RK remembers Madhu's various trials. Radhaji asks Rishabh to never let anyone endanger what he has with Madhu as God has brought Madhu into his life. RK suddenly realizes he cannot stand defeated, but go back to Madhu and win her acceptance at any cost. As he gets up with resolve, his mother asks where he is leaving to. Without telling her anything, he just takes her blessing and leaves the temple.
  • There in RK mansion, Madhu is waiting for RK. As she hears footsteps, she thinks it is RK, but it turns out to be her Bhabhi Dips Bhatia...who has come with a tray of chocolate, whiskey and vodka. She offers it to Madhu as a medicine to allay her pain given by RK for the love test he has taken. Madhu then gives her mind to Dips saying, she need not concern herself between what goes in between the husband and wife and that they can take care of themselves. She asks her to stop consuming liqueur and better take coffee to wake up from empty dreams of her.

Episode reviews 

Pictorial Commentary- By  Zorica over Page 6


By Myself

Well I wanted Madhu to give a tight slap to Dipali. But that can happen only in my imagination, so why tax poor Madhu. But if I were in Madhu's place, I would have thrown the plate of chocolate and whiskey and vodka...all smashed to the floor.

First things first...what a horrible cocktail combination to have chocolate with either whiskey or vodka. Well ...the far that you can go is chocolate with cognac and even that is sort of horrible !!! what happened to Dipali's sophisticated taste ?????

Now my respites...thodi si bhadaas meri, thodi si khundas meri kam hui. Madhu ko akla aa gayi and she showed the door to Dips Bhatia. Waise...construction wise, it came to full circle. Dips tried to sell Madhu the idea that RK is terrible guy then with money and now with false show of support.  She was an idiot that day, she is an idiot today. And now the dialogue writer better give Dips her punchline "Main Aisi tho na thee" something like that...I have to see her in a nincompoop status for few days to have my complete bhadaas out of the system. Make a lampoon of her pleeease...for living in her bubbly dreams.

My line for the day
RK-Radhaji ka Patch up and Dips-Madhu-RK ka Break up continued.

And hurrah!!! My thoughts validated and wishes granted by CVs. I am on 7th cloud !!! 

Pati Patni ki Privacy was the theme of the day. Lade, Mare, Jhagde, Test le, all jaayez between Pati and Patni...Teesre ka  beech me aane ka koi haque nahin.
Bhagwan ka baanaya hua rishta hai...Respect karo uski, Maano usko aur sambhaalo. 

Chalo...I am not that happy with the drama...but at least, its proceeding in logical progression.

And lastly towards 100 years cinema commemoration, we have Chanda Hai Tu song- from - Movie Aradhana, played when Radhaji sings that lullaby when RK wants to sleep in her lap.

I have to say, plot wise I am happy that CVs chose to catch any ride to have RK fix his insecurities by making peace with them...as in accepting the facts and letting the grudge go. So in that sense with this "test of love" start-revelation revisited, it has achieved:
  • RK reconciliation with his mother, 
  • RK-Madhu proper Break with Dips, 
  • RK insecurities turning to sand rather being clay stuck to him 
  • Madhu, fulfilling her promise to Rads regarding RK, 
  • Padmini and Shamsher marriage and Trishna movie launching story started to have Balraj back.
So today, while I was okay with RK calling Radhaji "Maa" and "sleeping in her lap" as Madhu promised that to Radhaji, dramatically it was far too contrived. 

My grudges with today's drama are:
  • How did RK know where to find Radha at that time ? It was plain TAPAKNA into scene.
  • Then we just have "Maa Main Thak gaya". Sorry! but it did not strike any chord within me. I mean I cried when Trishna melted and both sisters embraced each other. But seeing this maa-beta milan, it was like..."aaja beta scene jaldi khatam kar...phir tuhje Madhu ke paas bhi jaana hai"
Then again NO Complaints from the scene.
because, it seems MEIEJ CVs have 50-50 mind to use and drop Kuku-Sikky. Hence, they are in a rush for the reconciliation between Maa-beta, without much talk on their past, so that they can retire Kuku and Sikky just like that. And if need be called back again, then we have Radha's character, which was way too callously sidelined by CVs into not acting as the REAL MOTHER. Which mother actually when loving her husband's memories and when son actually treats her as everything will actually think that her son's father can be replaceable just like that. That's plain CLUNK.  And like Dipali Clunk, Radha clunk will go on as needed vehicles for the drama.  Soap world realities.

Concluding thoughts
Today, they kept it crisp between mother and son, that maa and godi mein sona like olden times. And nothing else was revealed that we do not know of or are curious. So it was not at all any development and just denouement towards some other drama coming up...and this is what keeps intriguing me. It is something that shall happen to Rishbala after Balraj drama.


By Zoya
Maa-Bete ka maha boring milan!!!!!

But all said and done, Shama Deshpande and VD were too good...

RK let go of all his grudges. How long can one hold it against ones mom, however weak woman she is. She might not be an exemplary as a mom but the fact remains is that she is his mom.. RK forgot all that happened in the course of 17 years n patched up. The only question he asks is why she got remarried n she states it was to bring back the father's love that he had lost in his life...Am glad she admitted in front of him that it was a huge mistake on her part... But what is done cannot be undone esp an act like marriage... RK has finally moved on!!!

The most interesting thing to watch out is how long will their r'ship hold fort, the other Bhatias reaction to this development esp, Kukku's and Dipzy's... And this might  reveal to us  the details of the events in the span of 17 years...

Madhu-Dipzy scene was fadoo... As i told in y'days EDT, Madhu ka keher barasna shuru ho gaya hai Dipali par... Obviously, this was to happen as she threatened the very foundation of her r'ship with RK... Madhu's "sharab chodkar coffee peena shuru kardo... hosh mein rahogi to sachchai dikhegi warna sapno mein  hi bhatakti rahogi was akin to a slap"... Can we have some more like this, till mujhe thoda sukoon mil jaaye?  

By Tanu
I knew yday, I would love the Maa-Beta scene and it will be for the actors. Both of them were awesome.
As usual Radha disappointed me… but RK's vulnerable state moved me to tears. Watching a man of with that physic crumble saying 'main thak gaya hoon, maa' was heartbreaking. Imagining the pain this man has carried with him for years is gut wrenching. As he stood there, he didn't know where his life was headed. He had everything planned till an hour back; he was going away from everything that was fake according to him with a woman he loves who was willing to walk down any path aslong as he was with her. All his problems would be done away with; he will be relieved of all his aches and pretence. But, his soulmate closed his escape route(thank god!) and suddenly the fatigue of all the years caught up with him… he conceded, he was tired! But he found renewed energy the moment his mom told him that his relationship with Madhu is his destiny and blessed by the almighty and he shouldn't let anyone spoil it. He walked away to give love and life another chance. That is what I love about this guy, he is willing to give it his all, yet again even though it comes with its share of insecurity. There is a difference between trust and insecurity. He trusts Madhu with his life, but he is insecure. Madhu needs to understand and so does he… Madhu has won his trust it is upto him to overcome his insecurity.
There were some beautiful moments in the Maa-Beta scene. RK trying to mouth the word 'maa' was epic... the word was at the tip of his tongue… a word that comes so naturally to all of us was a earth shifting moment for RK.  VD captured the hesitancy so well. The hug ofcourse was done well(would have liked Radha gather him in her arms than the other way around. But them again it is Radha we are talking about!)  The moment he put his head in his mom's lap was beautiful. She lulled him to sleep with a song. I wish she had insisted on going home and putting him to sleep… the man needed to sleep… everything else could have fallen into place a few hours later.
Now to coming to my complains with Radha… she was as self-centred as ever! It hurt more because I was wishing she would be different after she got her son back.
1)     Why did her hand stop midway and withdraw when she saw RK bleeding?  So what if he refuses her again??? She was thinking of his refusal when she needs to be thinking of his wound??? It was only after he hugged her and called her 'Maa' did she ask him what happened. 
2)     Doesn't she care to find out what happened that this guy showed up at the temple, searching for her and allowed himself to shatter infront of her? She asked him once… but did she get through to him to unburden himself? No! Thankfully she held him for a while as he slept (calmed down) and then went to her dukhi kahani of having waited for him, prayed for him! She said something like he should have seen beyond his anger and hurt, she was always there! I fail to understand how a mother chose to wait in the side-lines as her child suffered and destroyed himself every minute of his life.
3)     It was so evident something was terribly bothering him and just like he showed up, her son took her blessing and headed off for something very important. What would be a normal reaction? Worrying what was bothering her child again… but na… she was relieved/ecstatic that she got her son back. I am sure she will head back to danka marofy and tell Madhu forgetting to ask again what was her son worried about!   
To her credit, the one good thing Radha told RK was to hold on to Madhu… she is the blessing in your life, our lives! I feel sorry for RK, this is as good as RK will get it comes to his mother. And I will be ok if RK is able find some peace after reconciling with his mom. However, I am glad Padmini is there to shower him with what he misses out.
The Maa-Beta scene gets a thumbs up for brilliant portrayal of vulnerability of child infront of his mother. Both the actors gave one of their best performances today.
Madhu-Dipali scene was crisp and to the point. I loved Madhu's attitude, she didn't mince words or sugar coat anything. The strength of her character shone through. Madhu's stance today and hopefully forever was Dipali's failure. Madhu not shedding loads of tears is a major relief.
Precap… Hmmm lets see what is in store! As much as I believe RK owes Madhu more than a sincere apology… I didn't like seeing him defeated, vulnerable, asking (almost pleading?!?) to be accepted. May be the 'I hate you' will get him fighting for his love with conviction and passion

Responded by SD
Tanu,
Loved reading your post. Smooth flow.  Re your thoughts above Radha as the mother, I have say much of it is clunk and not her real character.


Monday, January 14, 2013

Episode 169 Discussion: 14th Jan 2013


Chan se jo tute koi Sapna, Jag soona soona laage

Events of the Episode
  1. Madhu who has listened to what was being discussed between RK and Dipali, that she had topped in the exam taken by RK about whether Madhu loves RK or Rishabh and how she is ready to leave everything behind...is shocked to know that Rishabh tested her. love. While Dips smirks at her win, Madhu is seething in anger and pain at this. She gives him her piece of mind telling him that he is wrong to test her or anyone as he is no judge of anyone. She goes on to say that he holds grudges unnecessarily against his parents when they did not abandon him but had to do what they had to do for their own tight spot situations. He needs to accept and move on. She ends her lecture saying, how can she now trust him that he loves her.
  2. RK unable to answer her, ashamed of causing hurt to her, he leaves the house, drives away. He is upset and keeps thinking of how Madhu was upset and what she all said, including things about his mother.
  3. At night when wind is blowing, the photo frame with Madhu and RK's pic falls down in Padmini's room. She gets nervous, but Shamsher comes and comforts her saying only frame is broken, the photo is still intact and good and he can get it fixed tomorrow.
  4. In the wee hours Radhaji goes to temple for her ex-husband Mohan Kundra's anniversary. She prays to God and thanks him that person such as Mohan Kundra had been able to spend some time with RK as his father. And these days, her heart indicates to her that her son may again call her "maa". Then she thanks to Ganesha that all this has been possible because of Madhu who came into Rishu's life. She asks Bappa to take care of them. 
  5. RK who is driving mad, meets with an accident. Episode ends.

Madhu character analysis and RK-Radha patch-up instigation
Page 4 - MarathiMulgi, dramacrazy12
Page 5 - zoya_naziya, Ananya05

Pictorial Commentary
Zorica - Page 5 and 6






Episode Takes

Very gripping Episode high on emotional angst.

Three things to say
1) Lets see what else Madhu will realize. She was like "Dil ki saari bhadaas nikaal di"  with all her anger, when she was the one who kept sacrificing or making space for RK. She was the one who allowed "Pushed to Wall" to happen. And her logic was ...not that its my nature...when people love the other, they tend to give themselves away...This is 100% true...I agree. But at the same time, Madhu should know, the man allows her to yell at him. Does Madhu get the same attention from others ? As in will she be able to yell at Trishna like this ? What will she call that ? She calls him judge and now she asks him, "do you think you are a judge?"  Will the Hum Hai Deewana  song lyrics for her change now ?  Hope sitting there she too realizes how she wants to take this relationship forward...a lot of shifting in the relationship just happened and both husband and wife have to realize something out of it.

Well, I happy at least Madhu angrily said without taking Dips name that "how could RK test her at her behest when he hates her and she has deceived him." That must have put him to shame. It should. I was so angry at that illogical thing from RK in the first place.

And Take home for RK...Don't take Madhu's words at face value from now on...She might say, I did all that to please you, not that I like it,  I played along because I love you that much.
I said the same thing to my husband in one of our emotional confrontations, he took my class and said, why would I do that and not be honest and say I can't play along? Why would I do something that might be just forcing my heart on something...He said lets discuss love later...but first things first that ... he cares that I need to be honest and not do anything that I might regret later or lash out like this. May be all women make this terrible mistake of accomodating and adjusting and giving in too much, can't help it.  It was a painful moment for me. My heart broke too at his hardness...there were lot of reasons... and things did change in paradigm manner...but then one thing one was clear to me...I cannot or should not play along today if tomorrow I will retreat when it becomes too much. Brutal truth...love is there or love is not there...ultimately its us who make or break the relationship and relationship goes on...break and fixing keeps on going on when you want to go on...you make space for the other anyways...

2) Second thing...Drinking now when driving that mad did not make sense at all. RK was so disturbed, he was in a state to just drive and not take a bottle to drink to forget...he needed to think...that part was wrongly portrayed. Even drunkards know when they have to drink... !!!!

The obvious clunk had to be there that it has to be Mohan Kundra's death anniversary and perhaps RK also gets to go to same temple. Or am I thinking wrong.

3) Third thing ...well wishes...liked that Padmini and Shamsher had better Pic in the photoframe of RK and Madhu at their home. And the parents concerns and loving words soothed me. Even Radha asking about their well being with Ganesha was happy to see.  Its like receiving your mom's call the next day and asking "is everything all right?" 

Plotlines and Story
Liked the dramatic content of the episode today, but much of it was predictable for the plotlines and required dynamic shift towards story development and may be partly to cover VD absence (8 more episodes to go until Ballu gets the chance to create hungama).

Over character development - Both husband and wife have shown lot of immaturity around the Test of Love induced by the SIL Dipali Bhatia. RK buys his SIL's gameplan and his Biwi today shows to him as if she felt belittled by her because RK tested at her prompting. And I am like Madhu...since when you developed that sense?!

But then I have a BIGGER MENTAL BLOCK to even SWALLOW that Madhu does not feel a tinge of anger/possessiveness/pride/self-esteem at what Dips does to her and her husband...since Dips introduction. Then what right she has to take her husband to a moral stand that he tested her as if all her self-esteem is lost that she failed. 

I mean Madhu, when did you show that you have some pride left in you? You take the shit from Trishna, Dips but always give it back full to this man called RK. You say he insulted you so many times. Was it when you had hate marriage ? Or was it when you started accepting him as is ? or was it when he started supporting you ? or was it when you started loving him?

What prompts you to always be prodding him into doing something. [Now this plotline...is a lil bit getting boring to me...it reminds me of GB Shaw's "Man and Superman". It is the woman driven Lifeforce all along ! Its like Strindberg's "The Father", where the woman can manipulate any result with the drama or emotion she creates around her man. Atleast Shaw entertained me with his hero accepting what his woman does to him and how he has to surrender to her.]

The moment your mother gives you sanction to take the marriage forward, you went ahead and fell in love with him in full swing as in in your imagination, you asked him to love you back. How healthy is that ? How about just asking once..."RK's what's the current relationship between us ? You claim before everyone that I am your wife inspite of the 4 phera marriage. So can I truly go ahead and act as your wife ?" How about that logic? [Not unbelievable from a 22 yr old girl. She is already close to being a Post graduate ] Nope! I cannot expect that else, how will the junoons come up ?

And Rishabh Kundra, you had it coming. Like an idiot, unable to control that Dips factor. What did I call you then ? Sexually undeveloped person..."The boy trapped in a Man's Body"[I have several posts, so I will not bore the readers with my links.]

My friend Peach called you "The boy is the father to the Man" albeit in much sympathetic manner.

Having made much of an ado of your parents had been your undoing...you had to go and talk to two women...your Dips and your Madhubala Rishabh Kundra...difference being one you made a rishta from your heart and other you made a rishta from head. Wish you had stuck to the rishta from head and never listened to your rishta from heart and all this testing would not have happened.

Well !!! You do deserve the lecture your Biwi gave you regarding your parents today for becoming the 12 year old Rishabh and asking for her love rather than just being the 29 year old RK and just maturely behaving and living a fruitful marriage. 

Didn't I tell you Zoya, this Friday I think...that all in all these days, it was Rishabh who was executing the drama...that I stopped seeing RK. But then I always wanted Rishabh and RK to be slapped out of his failures. Not that I don't agree on Rishabh's hurts. I agree, but I wanted him to move on...I wanted him to grow up. I wanted the reconciliation between Rishabh and RK which was not allowing him to function properly. I wanted RK to be slapped for pampering the Rishabh inside him. So I was telling you all along, this is just fixing track...The past needs to be burned...

There ends my scolding ...So Madhu was the wiser as always...big picture when it comes to getting thru to her husband...she always says RK and she always chose RK over Rishabh...like when she said...its not my nature to cry and weep with you, just that I loved RK, so I played along with Rishabh.

Dammit!!! Why did the dialogue writer not add RK versus Rishabh in Madhu's dialogues today. It would have made perfect sense and foil to Rishabh-Dips drama with Madhu just addressing RK what an idiot that Rishabh is....end of the matter whether Madhu loves RK or Rishabh.

Poor RK...he is always sandwiched between what he wants and how Rishabh keeps rearing his immature head 


RISHBALA -Next phase of their relationship
Anyways...I rest my case here saying that...though Madhu's lecture for Rishabh Kundra the person that she got married to was good, but a lot of the things she said to him there was way OUT of LINE. Everything that she said can be answered back and I am just waiting for more to be revealed. Hope both the characters learn something else other than just loving ? I mean they always trusted the other person for what he or she is and can do...but now if they learn to trust themselves as a unit, and let no one play with their relationship, that shall be a treat to see. They need to respect each other as their partner from their vantage of a couple in love and not just respect each other outside their room. The symbolic nuisance of the pillows wall still makes them two islands. They can respect each other into not trespassing the limits even without those pillows. So far I see more distrust from Madhu's end regarding RK (Dhoka to nahin doge dialogue yaad rakhna sab) with regards to their marriage and hesitation from RK towards Madhu to honour the marriage because the way he married her has created a lot of shame and guilt in him, which he just covers up with his attitude.

So the next stage for them is to respect each other as their life partners and build their relationship with the love they have for each other. The very first respect for their marriage or love by either of them will be reflected if they handle Dips factor who had openly disrespected their marriage by repeatedly calling Aadha adhoora marriage, 2 kaudi ki madhubala, 4 pheron ki Biwi or 4 pheron ka pati.  And this should be achieved before they even think of going for a saat phera marriage...because RESPECT from OTHERS comes when YOU HAVE SELF-RESPECT for your marriage or rishta whatever it is. And both the individuals never ever cared to show the respect to other in regard. Neither RK showed full respect to his marriage by not making a public display of the pillows wall nor Madhu showed Dipali the way out of her room. Her husband and his status was clearly at jeopardy and Madhu had no pangs...all this because, marriage with RK never mattered to her.  So ENOUGH of LOVE and START SHOWING RESPECT to YOUR MARRIAGE.

That's another matter, if you want to dissolve it...! Dips is sure gonna be happy

@ZoricaNice poster on Page 5. That was the only line,"What should I do now?" I was thinking about for the whole day for either of them...and finally I penned down that they need to respect their relationship and not make a butt of ridicule at the hands of their enemies. They both have been immature.

Can you read my post on page 6 and tell me if you agree ? Remember the story construct I charted out on Friday...I precluded all of this drama when I put up the IV phase of their story as Loving and Respecting Each other. 


I deliberately did not use the word Trust because they do trust each other, but they are unhappy like this today, hurt and broken because they did not respect what they had. Madhu is trying to fix him, heal him...okay good gesture, but why was she not making any effort to add respect to her marriage, the way her mother guided...step by step. If as a wife, she took advantage of her husbands's support for her to drive away Dips from his life, she would never have had let his husband fail her like this. For her to heal him, she did not have had to become target of Dipali, which her husband always was protecting her from...like being thrown away from the house, getting himself seduced or protecting the sanctity of their bed or trying to put an end to Dips poisoning Madhu's food. Madhu let all that go and even now she is worried about him and him testing her but not how they both have become a joke at the hands of Dips and that too continuously. She accuses him of distrusting her, but what about asking him once, how could he disrespect their marriage. 



And Rishabh did already make that mistake by listening to Dips.

Originally posted by zorica



Shri,

If I may add something: I do not think Rishab was not able to appreciate what he has. From the moment he declared his love to Madhu, many things have changed. He did a lot for her, he is careful, he respect her, etc.. 

Remember the fear in his eyes at the beginning of the episode. 
He was scared that he might lose her. For me this was the strongest impression!


That was love and regard. I am not saying he did not appreciate what he had. I am saying he did not respect what he had. Appreciation comes from heart when kindness or pleasure is felt. But respect goes from Head and later it gets ingrained in heart.

What about the respect for Madhu as a person, as his wife and not just his lover. He tested her love as a lover. If he was thinking as husband, respecting his marriage; would he have made a public display that their marriage as not consummated, or even allowed any other woman to talk about his wife? Some things need to be kept private between husband and wife...atleast when you both accept your marriage. When in hate marriage, he could not allow anyone to mistreat his spot girl cum wife other than him, just because she is his wife, when he could doll up her in good clothes, then why when marriage is accepted, a public display of pillows wall on the bed and allowing anyone to enter their quarters at any time.

If you think I am nit-picking, then you remove Dipali induced drama and show new drama. But if Dipali was instrumental in all of this, then she is the reason for them to accept themselves as married and yet unable to honour it in order for her to keep taking advantage of that fact.  That is only reason that gives power to Dipali.

By Zoya
Re. RK-Radha patch-up and Madhu's involvement in it...

I agree with everyone's concern here regarding the RK-Bhatia dynamics. Infact, all these valid questions have been plaguing all  of our minds since the day Madhu has involved herself in trying to bring the mother-son duo closer...

After a lot of ranting, discussing about all this in the previous EDT's , I can  only try to provide some consolation based on the way Madhu has behaved in the past... All of it doesn't really answer the questions we all have, but atleast I have come to terms with Madhu's behavior...  

And the fact is that Madhu is Madhu.. Madhu sets a goal and bluntly,obtusely starts achieving it without bothering to find the nitty-gritties or even understanding the delicacy, underlying emotions of the situation/task at hand...Shri has beautifully explained about Madhu in her subtleties of r'ships post...  

Let us revisit the past...
She did it during the blackmailing with photograph incident too.. RK conceded to apologize rather than divulge info regarding the sentiments behind the photographs... When she came to know of it later, she was only filled with remorse...  This truth and along with the studio night spent together, had changed her hatred to dislike for him. 

She did it during the Bappa track.. Thankfully everything turned out well in the end... It was basically a one-sided human emotion involved. But even then, she managed to put his life in jeopardy, though inadvertantly, and she felt guilty... But ant bhala toh sab bhala..He patched up with God and all was well...And most importantly,at the end of this track, her feelings for him changed...

She is now doing the same with Radha too.. RK knows she is trying to patch him up with his mom...He has just told her that she got remarried when he wanted her the most and hence betrayal.. He refuses to divulge his pain for 17 years, the details of the Bhatias,etc and is conceding to patching up with his mom rather than divulge info... A day would surely come when she would understand and most impotantly feel the real extent of his pain his mother's remarriage has caused him and that day she would yet again be filled with remorse and guilt. RK would only rise in her eyes and her love for him would only increase...

And lastly,Madhu discovers something new about the man she loves with every situation and predicament she encounters and the result is always savory for both her and him, though the ride is bumpy...

DEDICATION
By myself
My emotions and thoughts for today.
Affirmation by Savage Garden.

I believe the sun should never set upon an argument
I believe we place our happiness in other people's hands
I believe that junk food tastes so good because it's bad for you
I believe your parents did the best job they knew how to do
I believe that beauty magazines promote low self esteem
I believe I'm loved when I'm completely by myself alone

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is no more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

I believe you can't control or choose your sexuality
I believe that trust is more important than monogamy
I believe that your most attractive features are your heart and soul
I believe that family is worth more than money or gold
I believe the struggle for financial freedom isn't fair
I believe the only ones who disagree are millionaires

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is no more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye

I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness
I believe that wedded bliss negates the need to be undressed
I believe that God does not endorse TV evangelists
I believe in love surviving death into eternity

I believe in Karma what you give is what you get returned
I believe you can't appreciate real love until you've been burned
I believe the grass is no more greener on the other side
I believe you don't know what you've got until you say goodbye




By myself

Good night/ Good day girls. Finished updating EOD summary

Almost Madhu's state of heart...enjoy the crooning... Let it Linger by Cranberries..



Sunday, January 13, 2013

Episode 168 Discussion: 12th Jan 2013

Ek taraf Madhu-Trishna ka Patch-up, toh Doosri taraf RK-Dips-Madhu ka Break-up

Events of the Episode
  1. Yesterday's scene of RK and Madhu's lovey-dovey moments at the Studio continue. They are sweet nothings and yet loveable moments as RK wanted to drop Biwi at the Mehndi ceremony and he can't because, he had to be at the shooting. Madhu tells him that she understands and leaves.
  2. At chawl, the daughters force Shamsher to have a little Mehndi done. Mehndi Hassan appiles a dot over Shamsher's hand.
  3. Trishna is lovingly applying coconut oil over Padmini's henna applied hands. Madhu yearns for the same and when Trishna passes by, she shows her hands too meekly. Trishna sees the hands and wants to go away, but when she sees Madhu withdrawing her hands, she applies in all overwhelming affection for her sister. The sisters have tears and they hug. Me too felt so emotional.
  4. Then Roma starts the Navraji Majhi song to which the two sisters dance beautifully.
  5. Later in the night after the end of function, Roma corners Trishna and asks where the money came from. Trishna ends up telling that she got the movie offer. Roma asks Trishna to look into her eyes and reveal the details of the offer. Trishna throws a tantrum that no one trusts her and won't believe her and thinks that she is capable of hurting everyone in her family.
  6. At RK mansion, as RK waits for Madhu, Dips the stalker enters his room again and their usual banter starts...her aiming to hurt him and him reacting. Just that today, RK instead of angrily shouting at her, shows her his confidence that he has won love now which Dipali has spurned 5 years back. Upon further prodding by Dipali, RK boasts to Dipali that he tested Madhu the way she suggested and has found that Madhu loves Rishabh and not RK.  
  7. Just that to his dismay, Madhu has been overhearing all of this. We see a shell-shocked Madhu's face.

By Zorica
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2nd part of the Episode
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Episode Reviews

Episode is A class

Emotional and very good acting by everyone. For some reason, everyone was looking so beautiful with their lovely attires today. All of them. Padmini, Shamsher, Roma, Trishna, Dipali, RK and Madhu...all glowing !

So it was VISUALLY , DRAMATICALLY and EMOTIONALLY  APPEALING today. BEAUTIFUL !!

Trishna - Madhu patch up was so beautiful. It brought tears to my eyes. I got so emotional.  The sisters couldn't help it...

Over RK-Dipali Equation Fixing Track
I always wanted Dipali to be kicked out from RK's life with his fights with her ...with Madhu present there watching both of them in RK Mansion...because RK did not get the chance to fight with Dips  with her becoming his Bhabi and him forcefully required to be gentleman and avoid all such talks at his home. He was able to fight Dipali regarding his success in his acting career where he succeeded and she failed, when she abandoned him for her career. Personal jilt in love was never addressed by RK, because he was busy becoming successful in career and moreover, she later became his Bhabhi, officially closing the venue for them to talk/fight.

Now this bitter fight with Dipali  in present times after Madhu's entry into his life, is allowing him to not to get into a tight spot with family and his Biwi being actually to be a witness to everyone that ...RK has not taken advantage of his Bhabhi's honour...if Dipali tries to slander RK as if he was seducing her etc...   

This track is all about RK's washing off his hands with Dipali forever. Because every love affair needs to have exit fights as well. And with his repeated fights with Dipali is making him lose his anger with Dipali for having jilted him in love.  

And today even if Dips is smirking at Madhu being so shocked and hurt, what she is not understanding is she has lost it permanently with RK. Because now RK is going to run after Madhu to win her back and not turn to Dipali like she may be dreaming.

Remember that movie...Julia Roberts one...My Best Friends Wedding...how Rupert Everett asks Julia...look behind you...is anyone running after you ? 

Ofcourse Dips is more evil than  Julia Roberts and she played a better psychological game with RK in her revenge plan ...but inadvertantly she showed RK what is more precious to him...his love for Madhu and her respect and honour in tact, her view about him or his anger and insecurities for all NON-MADHU items in his life. 

So peeps, be happy...Dipali -RK Equation is NOW OFFICIALLY FINISHED !! 

I am so happy now !!!!! Hurray!!!


Re Dips as RK's Ex-Flame (Ex-Mehbooba) 
I liked it today that RK told us out what he likes in Dips and how he will miss her.

So RK was attracted to Dipali's intelligent mind...the mind games she can induce when she talks in innuendos with a certain classy sense of humour of hers. 

So this goes with RK's character...when him had not much to lose or gain...he was attracted to craziness, challenges etc. In very recent times, we have seen him getting attracted to Balraj's crazy but smart ambulance idea ...only to knock senses to his mind...what is he doing with that crazy guy...Its a separate thing how Balraj makes RK get committed to him. 

Satisfaction to brain/mind is one important aspect of our overall happiness...without which, we can go crazy or depressed.

So RK likes anything that has a bit of game in it. This is consistent with character trait.  I made a long post on my apprehensions about RK's character on this trait and now that he loves Madhu, he needs to curb his desires for gaming. This was on episode where Balraj made his re-entry.


RK-Dips-Madhu ka Break-up

Finally I hope..we will have the much needed break up between the three regarding seeing them together in same quarters. RK quarters was getting to be habitated by RK and his two women...one a 4-phera Biwi and other Ex-mehbooba. All three hinged together.

Today too in the ending scene..Madhu the wife was walking away from the room, RK the husband was at the threshold of the room and Dipali inside the quarters, just like the time when RK brought Biwi to his quarters when Dipali wanted to spend the night with him in his room, adorning it with all candles, right under the nose of her husband Sikky, who still was inhabiting RK mansion.

  • Only RK was clear that who gets to stay in his quarters. He asked his Biwi to stay there and he always used to ask Dipali to get out.
  • But Shameless Dipali always used to barge in anytime of the day or night...even when husband and wife were in bed on their first day. Even Patranis or concubines have their own rooms. But never I could believe my eyes that this woman gets away by coming into his room...and shameless she and the inmates of RK...no one wonders or asks what the Bhabhi has to do in the Dewar's room.
  • And Madhu the wife when not in love, would just let her aadha adhoora pati to have all conversations with this woman, she would wear her saree when she knew her husband would not like her wearing his ex-flame's saree and she wouldn't even remove that saree when RK asks her to. And when later she fell in love with her husband, even then she was telling RK to treat Dipali with respect and not shoo her away.

Overall Feedback to CVs sent to Colors TV, Sourabh Tewari and Gautam Hegde

Dipali was the worst character and track introduced by CVs to create drama. Seema Mishra must have impressed people with her acting, but her character to the story was plain disgusting and an unfathomable CLUNK to the Story. Because she rendered Rishabh Kundra the socially married person to an almost NAKAARA Napunsak, who couldn't keep the woman away from his quarters. She also rendered Madhu, the wife in love/devotion letting the woman roam around in their quarters freely as if none of it bothers her. Can any woman believe this ? I mean simple question is Ek Mayaan mein Do Talwaaren Kaisi ? Why Madhu would never understand this ?

No matter, how much interesting drama Dipali must have generated, but all of it was PLAIN CLUNK. 

CVs,
Please do register this feedback on permanent basis in your book and you RETIRE DIPALI. We don't need a character that just is clunky device. Treat this as a disapprobation for turning a husband and wife into Napunsaks at having been unable to stop her barging into their quarters any time. No amount of RK insecurities and Madhu innocence will actually allow me to overlook the fundamental CLUNK present in the story through Dipali. At real, I don't know how many husbands and wives could tolerate this drama. 


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By Zoya

Dipali ke paintaron aur jaadu ka hua antim-sanskaar!!!

The episode was fabulous today:)

RK-Madhu scene: I loved yesterday's episode RK-Madhu scene. Got to see RK stuttering and stammering in front of his Biwi and his keenness to know Madhu's opinion of the reel romantic scene(though indirectly,tedha jo hai) she witnessed. And finally she tells him that she understands its his work and that he should go ahead with it..

Madhu-Trishna and Chawl dance: It was a happy reunion for the two sisters. Nothing remembered, but the assumed khushiyon ki bahaar in their lives.. The dance was good and Madhu's patiala costume was quite better than the tacky anarkalis she is wearing of late..

Then comes the two parallel confrontation scenes- Trish-Roma at the chawl and RK-Dipz in RK's  dharamshala oops room..

Trish tells that the money is for the film offer she has received and Roma refuses to believe. Trish wards off the producer-related ques that Roma asks her by saying some new producer and finally Trish gets angry and asks her as to why she thinks that she is capable of only bad and walks away in a huff. 

RK-Dipz scene was as usual fabulous. Dipz was at her best, playing her usual old tricks(love in his life, his only weak point) that have worked till date. But today, RK shut her up and started flushing out the zeher in his heart, he had for her w.r.t. the love angle. For the first time, he tells her that she has lost him five years back and the intezaar in his life yielded him the best fruit.  It was too good to see a fearful and horrified Dipali when she knows that she has lost the battle she has been successfully waging for five years and that she can no longer unnerve him. And the evil laugh and the smirk when she realized Madhu has overheard their convo was just too good. But am sure that laugh would turn out to be hollow in the coming days. She is such a sadist and I can't believe that she claimed to love RK once. Hopefully this is the much needed  and most awaited Dipali closure in his life!!!


Saturday, December 29, 2012

Episode 148 Discussion: 18th Dec 2012

Let's fix our families before fixing ourselves in a saat-phera marriage
Episode 148  Discussion: 18th Dec 2012
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3349661

Episode Events
RK comes home with that Trishna curse in mind. He catches hold of Madhu as she falls down who is trying to remove the photo from the wall. The Photo is of hers and RK's taken at Jagrata, gifted by Radhaji and fixed by the man-servant. RK lets the photo be and clears all misunderstanding between himself and Madhu. He cites his understanding of Madhu's reasons as to be her wish to fix Trishna's career, fix her mother and her Malik's (Shamsher) life. He then asks, will she come with him once her fixing is done. She says yes. Then RK proposes a saat phera marriage to Madhu to rectify his mistake. Plus he also says the marriage will be taken up until after they have fixed their families. Then Madhu proposes that not just her family needs to be fixed, even RK needs to fix his relationship with his mother. RK is angry, but he feels there is some credit to it. He spends the night in his painting room. He is in the middle of the painting when he spills the color platter. He remembers his mother instructing him to be careful with colors, brush and paint with the emotion whatever comes from his heart. He now tries to do the same. After a while, he sleeps. When he wakes up he sees that he painted a total black painting with no emotion. He calls for his servants for washing his hands. There comes Radhaji with water. Upset he calls for Madhu and goes to Hall. Radhaji tells that Madhu had gone to temple and she gets him tea as all servants are on leave. RK doesn't talk but takes to the kitchen and keeps it aside and starts making tea by himself. He ponders and in the end, he decides to let it go and has the tea,

Highlight of the episode
RK and Madhu understand each other. RK understands Madhu's dilemma and tells her that Madhu cannot forgive Shamsher Malik for what he did and yet she cannot deny that they have a relationship. There is pain, but she needs to just let it go as that would help things. Likewise Madhu reminded RK that he cannot forgive his mother, but there is a relationship that he cannot deny and he should let go the pain as it would only help him move on.
Beauty of the episode
When Rishabh Kundra looks at his black painting and doesn't like what has come out from his heart thinking about his mother. At that kind of expression from inside, makes him realize that he needs to let it go, call it truce so that his heart can picture/hold beauty. Loved how his conflict went on between his making his own cup of tea and the cup of tea that his mother made for him.

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Page 8 - Zorica&SD (Rishbala's hug), Red_Opium (The Photo that Rads gifted)
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Episode Review
Reconciliation and Fixing before Leaving track
There was nothing much there in the episode that needs to be analyzed today. We just had to see the developments in terms of story. So now we know...Rishabh wants to leave everthing behind and take Madhu away, far from all this. Madhu is also ready to go. Before they can do this, he promised that he will help her fix her family. Likewise, she also wants to his family.

If we, both did not talk about love for their families. But to move on with their life, to step onwards to their love filled journey together, they don't want curses or unhappiness to dog them or nag them.

Its like they want to do Bidai, but in all proper manner so that they can move on. So this track is about let's fix our broken relationships, before we try to settle down. There is so much that we both need to correct before we can think about our happiness...untainted as it should be. We want to be blessed by them and not cursed.

Other than this...there was nothing much in the episode. I already spoke about how Madhu fixed the mother -son relationship today. She requested Rishabh and then stubbornly made him see reason. Good enough for me. Because mother-son issues never should have taken years to resolve and it would not have taken that much time had it not been for RADUNCE.

Radhaji & Madhu-Radhaji-RK equation

I really have to say something here and am so excited about it. Remember we all discussed, actually Bhoomi was more vocal about it. Later on Leela joined us.

We were saying then that no a way a child would not have been able to open himself if Radhaji had more of confidence in herself and trusted her son too. It is so easy for mothers to scold, reprimand their children and sometimes go against their child's wishes for their own betterment. Children hate their mother for being so harsh with them. And later on the mother would know winning ways to cajole and humor her child.

We all lamented that how Rads could not win back her child. Could not say, "Rishabh/Rishu your anger is totally unwarranted...now get your ass back here and start eating what I am feeding you."   She never had the gut to do it. Because may be she never had that much of love in her word. What a meek woman she is...so "chalaktha hua Ghada" which just makes a noise.

In comparison, today...when Madhu said from behind, Maa, woh Chai zaroor piyenge, all my matronly feelings came out. Infact this feeling so touched me in the entire episode that I paused the video and came here to write.

I mean, when will Rads know that one needs to believe in goodness, then only good will happen. She being a mother, how could she have a heart, where she cannot hope one good for her son and it is always about her insecurities flashed out. And the more she doesn't believe, the more insecurity, fear and distrust had been passed on to her child. A child's heart is ready to imbibe anything. So all Rishu got from Rads was insecurity in inheritance and his channelising all that into anger.

Anyways, when Madhu said, he will drink, I could see the mother in her and I could see Rishabh the child there struggling in his mind to beat his emotion and rationalizing, why can't he drink the tea. After all its just tea.  

I remember my childhood...God!!! My mother was a tyrant. I used to fear her, not like her...she was just that whom I should be wary of ...but in my 15th year, when I was doing my revisions for board exams and she used to go out of home to her friend's place, I yelled at her crying, that she leaves me alone. Till date I remember her face...it was a clueless face...with amazed expression as to where did it come from. She started laughing aloud. And then I felt embarrassed. Probably that was the first emotional display between both of us. Now that the cat was out of the bag, I did not stop crying and she did not hesitate to leave behind her tyrant image and caressed me and said that she was actually doing me a favour by going out, else her friends will come home and I would be disturbed..and saying that she left. 

I mean mothers always know how to go around their children. If Padmini or Madhu would have been Rishabh's mother, he would never have turned this weak.

RK's reconcilation with his mother (Radhaji) through the painting.
About RK/Rishabh having that tea, when he seemed so much capable to make a cup of tea for himself...the way I read is...when there is so much happiness out there reaching out to to you and you want to bask in it...then it makes sense to do away with pain and displeasure quickly...like all gile shikwe mitaana ...and just move on. Rishabh while drinking that tea was actually listening to Madhu's word to move on ...with relationship (love /no love that's a separate matter...at least the pain will not be there to hurt you)...and he was ready to let go his mother-issue-pain because he was ushering in happiness from his bonding with Madhu. That's HOPE there ...He nurtured hope for himself today by LETTING IT GO.  

Healing is a long process...I mean time taken to arrive at right diagnosis is long, sometimes it takes forever to find the right medicine, but then always there is that one single magical moment which takes us bu surprise and we are ready to get healed. For Rishabh, that day was today. He just chose to end it...because the painting that he painted in black was JUST NOT HIM.

Originally posted by 0-SD-0

Highlight of the episode
RK and Madhu understand each other. RK understands Madhu's dilemma and tells her that Madhu cannot forgive Shamsher Malik for what he did and yet she cannot deny that they have a relationship. There is pain, but she needs to just let it go as that would help things. Likewise Madhu reminded RK that he cannot forgive his mother, but there is a relationship that he cannot deny and he should let go the pain as it would only help him move on.

Beauty of the episode
When Rishabh Kundra looks at his black painting and doesn't like what has come out from his heart thinking about his mother. At that kind of expression from inside, makes him realize that he needs to let it go, call it truce so that his heart can picture/hold beauty. Loved how his conflict went on between his making his own cup of tea and the cup of tea that his mother made for him.
Responded by Namzz
Agreed Shri, those are the two things that stood out for me. I have whined about Radhaji being weak, guillable and so forth, but there is one thing we can't deny. She loves her son very much. As a mom I can totally relate to that. Its sad that things had to be so bad between her and Rishu but then there wouldn't be a show for us to watch.
I sincerely hope that she smartens up about all the Bhatia's. The sooner she figures out what a bunch of blood sucking leaches they are the better.
There is nothing worse for a Mom when she knows she has let her child down and they dispise her.

Responded by Latekate
In the BG he keeps hearing his mother's instructions, on what to paint and the best part was the next day when they show the canvas, it was as chaotic as his own feelings (I was actually waiting to see what had he painted? Is it his mother or Madhu?)  He needs a closure to a lot of things. When the new heroine says she is lucky to have her debut with RK, he says/feels he is unlucky. All this would stop, once he has a closure with all the relationships which went sore.
It would actually be interesting to have a closure with Dipali track. A reluctant ex who is not ready for a closure and RK finding a way for a closure from with in
By himbin
Shri,
@ Bold...Until I read this,it didn't occur to me...yes,his pyaar bhi hain aur dard bhi hain holds true for both Madhu-Shamsher and RK-his mother.Seems both of them are going to make peace 
with their respective parents at the same time during this track...

@ other..Liked what you said and agree...The FB he remembers during the painting session is of his mother being patient and lovingly teaching him of holding the brush and paint...This,I guess is a revelation to his conscious mind of the fact he knows all along that no matter what his mother does love him...FB triggered by Madhu (to listen to his heart) kind of forced him to accept it...In the morning when he sees the painting it again was a revelation of his inner self...The chaos,the extent of the bitterness and anger he is been indulging in towards his mother...Now that the contrast(of his mothers love and his bitterness) has come to his conscious mind,he is going to confront it , deal and make peace with it...he can no longer deny his own hidden affections for her...

By SD
Thank you Hima.

What I liked about yesterday was ...just like RK doesn't want Madhu to become his doctor (because of his past experiences) but he cannot deny what she said, that he needs to heal. I was saying on Dec 6th discussion, with you and ATN, that either Madhu needs to confront Radhaji about whys? or she needs to talk to Rishabh Kundra about his mother. She appealed to RK on Dec 6th when she scolded him for being rude to his mother and he apologized. And today she again appealed to Rishabh and Rishabh the hurt person also decided it time to retire. His deciding has effectively removed his dependence on doctors in his life and the fear of deception. Healing in real sense starts when person who is hurt sees what damage is happening to him by remaining bitter.  

For me showing it through the painting scene and later in kitchen...him trying to just do it away with everything...that gulping down tea rather than sipping tea, made so much sense. Because when you let it go, you forgive people, you get more pleasure and relief from it...this is infact more than what Madhu's closeness can give him.  But that Madhu thought about helping him in this manner, is gonna make him appreciate her worth. Such a contrast betweem Dipali and Madhu. One said, you can never be happy and so don't expect love, don't look for it...but Madhu...she says, its not about love, its about a relationship that you cannot deny and you still love that person...Dipali made him look like a beggar to himself...whereas Madhu made him the rich man who can give away.

Preet messaged me yesterday and said...so Shri you got the painter there and it must have appealed to you. I said yes. In this regard we both think alike...we just cannot hold grudges close to heart...Naasoor ban jaate hain. 

I am happy it made sense to Namzz and many others too.

Radhaji
Originally posted by zoya_naziya
According to Radha, RK had shut his heart to everyone in this world. So she felt that there was no point in trying to get closer to him and thus stayed away from him. But from the time, Madhu has started to make a place in his heart, she realized that he is starting to open up his heart which raised her hopes.. She saw that RK had made peace with his father and Bappa after the Ganpati track bcoz of Madhu..
 and she knows that he is letting only Madhu in and no one else. So Madhu is the ladder to reach out to him... 
Today, she was a lil hesitant to lie to RK that Madhu has gone to the mandir too..
@paint: Radhaji was shocked to see the messed-up canvas and understands the damage she has caused to him. That is why she was so down and was sure that he would never drink the cup of tea made from her hands.. But she went ahead with this childish prank coz Madhu would have convinced her of the same and when it comes to RK, Madhu knows better...

P.S: DO not mistake me to be proponent of Radhaji 
By Tanu
Thank u for the reply. And no, i will not mistake u to be advocate of Radha.
The problem I have with Radha is that she didnt try enough. I would buy the arguement that RK shut himself form the world and he needed to be given space if he was a grown up man. If she though a 13 yr old child needs space, especially when he has lost his father and has to adjust to him mom married to someone else and allowed him shut himself off... She failed as a mother! Period! Even if i have to say it is fine leave him alone... i cant imagine leaving a kid alone for more than 24 hours... and here it is 15 years! And frankly if it was anyother bond in the world I may still discount it... but  I cant beleive a mother cannot reachout to her child, her only child and especially when she was the ONLY one he had in this world to call his own! For a child to spend sleepless nights not for a day or two but for 15 years with a mother under same roof is a Mother's failure. I am not questioning her love for her son, I am questioning her conviction to make her son's life atleast peacefull,  if not happy. I get angry when I see her shed tears at her son's ruthless behaviour. Has she spared a thought on why despite all the anger and hatred RK still stays with her, puts up with the Bhatias so much so hides their misdeeds only for her? Forget RK, lets write him off as an impossible kid, what about Sikki? Sikki must be a year or 2 older than RK... has she been a good mother to him? I dont see a bond there at all... whatever it is it is demonstrated by her relationship with Dipali. 
I agree that Madhu is the only one he allows into his world, but has Madhu had it easy? Madhu probably had the toughest chance to make a meaningful relationship with RK... but she managed. It was her grit and conviction that held ground infront of a ruthless RK. And Radha had her own child infront of her to care and nourish and she failed. I agree it is but natural for Radha to seek Madhu's help. What will disappoint me a great deal will be if Madhu sees this situation only from Radha's prespective(which is the case untill now). Why should Rishab relent? He has reasons to be angry too... I want those to addressed. I want Madhu to remind Radha that though RK has kept away from her... she has been the only one RK has cared for until now and knowing how slow Radha is, may be even illustrate how RK has taken care of his mother despite himself.
Radha's character disappoints me for the lack of depth and more importantly the self pity she indulges in.

Originally posted by zorica


I think that the RK's hug looks like thath, because of he is shy of greater intimacy, since he wants to have "physical contact" with Madhu. 


You know what I mean. 

And to give credit...

  1. This was his first hug where he wanted to respond
  2. That too after a big misunderstanding and a bad day at the studio, with him almost running naked in front of everyone
  3. He was trying again to step back into a reasonable person in love and not insane person in love.
  4. He could be longing, but that curse from Trishna already scared him enough to make him think of restarting everything with a clean system reboot. 
First hugs in extreme emotional and vulnerable state are not about passion, but are about sensitivity. Certain awkwardness always exists in first hugs.
Good thing was both were getting comfortable and ready to snuggle further 

Leaving behind and an Artist's retreat
Originally posted by DovesView
SD: I completely understand where you are coming from. I understand he is an artist. He needs retreat. My concern was not about what he would do for money. It is not even with the professions they are holding or whether they are employed or not. I was thinking loud because it is not about RK alone but involves Madhu too. Housewife or not, she has had her own life until now. Just because one gets married and one loves the spouse so much, it is not necessary that the spouse be expected to abandon everything and go. I understand why RK demands that or behaves like that. We have discussed about him in layers at length. It is good to live moments and not think about future but when two individuals are involved there has to be harmony in such desire. When one of the two has promises to keep or when one has not severed ties with the family and of its duties, the future weighs more than the moment. I would say Radha didn't think of the future much and was taking a momentary decision when she remarried because back then I presume she was worried about Rishab and did not have the confidence to bring him all alone (per what she said in one of the epis). Thus, the state of their relationship. I am not trying to argue but somehow I cannot see RK becoming so weak. I don't know if I made my thoughts clear. Tried to put them across. No hard feelings please.

In marriage, one partner has to for a compromise. If they cannot, their marriage is broken. Period. That's why lives of artists have more of broken marriages. It is a reality ...everyone knows that.

An artist...half of the time...even when living in same place...the mind is not shared...it goes into its own trips. Its love that keeps the marriage alive. There could also be meeting of two minds at intellectual level that also keeps two partners together. The thing that they showed today ...no one can separate us ...when Rishabh says so...there is a catch in it...coz he is an artist. He could be his own enemy.

We need to add a lot of sensitivity into this story if we need to understand this kind of story.

Its like Ramakrishna Paramahansa...respecting his wife all the time...but never actually having a proper conjugal life. He saw Goddess in her...but did the wife think of this kind of life ?