Events of the Episode
- Madhu gets dressed up the Duplicate in gown, covers her bare shoulders with the stole.Comes for the shot. RK starts his act, holds her waist, albeit saying he doesn't like touching her but has to for the shot. Shot goes on beautifully. Director is happy. But Kameena RK has another idea to interrupt the shooting and reminds everyone that heroine did not have stole. And he calls Madhu as Madhubala and starts removing that. Half-way, Madhu's tear falls on him. He snaps out and calls Pack-Up. Reason...Duplicate not looking like Heroine at all. And tells Director to transfer the day's expense into his account.
- Everyone starts to leave. Bittuji looks teary-eyed at his Bhabhiji and from behind RK calls Bittuji to come away. Sad version of Hum Hai Deewane song for Madhu. From here contrived execution of CVs for their drama starts. On the way out, Bittuji calls Radhaji, gives her the update as to what happened. Radhaji wonders what a twisted relationship her son and daughter-in-law share. She prays to Bappa.
- We then magically see RK in a strange room. It turns out to be the make up room. He is talking to Bittuji and we learn that his car has broken down and that his vanity van had been sent off.
- In the adjacent make-up room, which we viewers can see and which RK can only hear through the wall, hears Madhu sobbing. She ends her sobbing with "HauslBy on se Veer hoon, Sankaton mein Dheer hoon, Dushmano se bheer hoon...all in sob-sob style.RK in the adjacent room is all listening to this and his heart is cut into 1000 pieces.
- Bittuji takes Bappa's name and enters Main room, switches off power. RK comes running looking for Madhu as she is afraid of dark.
- RK calls for Madhu. Madhu doesn't allow him to touch her. He says you are afraid of dark. She denies and says she is afraid of him whom she saw in light and hates him. Madhu tells him that he has no right to be concerned about her after what he did. RK is unable to take her no and pulls her and as Madhu gets away from him, RK's hold on her hand causes her shirt sleeve to come off.
- There comes the flying 5th Slap from Madhu on RK's cheek. She asks him, what can he do now for her 5th slap.
- How will he avenge himself now for the 5th Slap. Check it out for the answer on Monday.
Episode Reviews
By Myself
Paanchve Thappad ka badla kaise loge ?
Batao Na ?
Sunne ke liye Tune in Kijiyega Agle hafte somvaar sade aath (8:30) baje.
It was a Rishbala Shippers episode.
Radhaji and Bittuji acted the Cupids. Now I don't understand why peeps would hate them for their conspiracies !
Khair not my problem. I liked Radhaji praying to God..to give some solution. Coz I believe in Miracles. I like them
And Bittuji...Phas na jaana, Sambhal jaana, Switch zaroor ON kar dena, kaam poora ho jaane ke baad.
Nothing much to analyse. Contrived another studio night. But the hopeless like me will watch it, ogle at it anyways.
Interesting dialogue:
by god first time...Duplicate original se bhi sundar lag rahi hai
Sad version of the Hum Hai deewane song...They changed the female singer. So that means now mukhda will keep changing according to the situation.
Kaisi yeh pyaar ki dekho ruswaayi
Bass door talak tanhaayi
kya wafa ko sila sirf bewafaayi
pyaar mein jaan ganyaayi
Hum the Deewaane Tere Deewaane -4
Translation
Look how the love has been disgraced.
Only solitude on the horizon.
How the loyalty has been paid. Only disloyalty.
Have lost my life in love.'
I was crazy. Crazy about You -4
ETA - Events:
Madhu gets dressed up the Duplicate in gown, covers her bare shoulders with the stole.
Comes for the shot. RK starts his act, holds her waist, albeit saying he doesn't like touching her but has to for the shot. Shot goes on beautifully. Director is happy. But Kameena RK has another idea to interrupt the shooting and reminds everyone that heroine did not have stole. And he calls Madhu as Madhubala and starts removing that. Half-way, Madhu's tear falls on him. He snaps out and calls Pack-Up. Reason...Duplicate not looking like Heroine at all. And tells Director to transfer the day's expense into his account.
Everyone starts to leave. Bittuji looks teary-eyed at his Bhabhiji and from behind RK calls Bittuji to come away. Sad version of Hum Hai Deewane song for Madhu. Lyrics given above. From here contrived execution starts. On the way out, Bittuji calls Radhaji (not sure what RK was doing at this time...I thought he should have been right in front of Bittuji), gives her the update as to what happened. Rads ...says what a twisted relationship both have. lol. And yet she prays to Bappa. Jai Ho. Main Dhanya ho gayee. Nahin to what will happen for my ogling eyes. lol. We then magically see RK in a strange room. It turns out to be the make up room. He is talking to Bittuji and we learn that his car has broken down (yet again! Sigh!) and that his vanity van had been sent off. lol. In the adjacent make-up room, which we viewers can see and whicg RK can only hear through the wall...hears Madhu crying...sisak sisak ke rona. She ends her crying with "Hauslon se Veer hoon, Sankaton mein Dheer hoon, Dushmano se bheer hoon...all in Sisak- Sisak style...Means our hero in the adjacent room is all listening to this and his dil ke hazaar tukde ho rahe hain, with all that chakku churiyaan in the form of Madhu's Sisak Sisak tears. :( :D
Bittuji ne piya cinkaara and liya Bappa ka naam and dhaava bole. Main room mein gaye, switch off kar diya (How does he know that Madhu is afraid of Dark ? confused) Ab aur kya hona hai. RK kameene se Hero to ban hi gaye...Action hero bhi ban haye...as in came running looking for Madhu as she is afraid of dark. Big Deal !! But I like it Balle Balle for the drama that ensues. Hero calls for Madhu. Heroine doesn't allow him to touch her. He says you are afraid of dark. She denies and says she is afraid of him whom she saw in light and hates him. They fight for no reason. And RK pulls her for no reason, and Sleeve comes off for no reason. Seriously how does sleeve tear off like that...the guy did not even tug at it. Contrived Drama. Lo there comes the flying 5th Slap on RK's cheek. Yeah Madhu gives it. But don't worry. She asks him...Kya kar loge. How will he avenge himself now for the 5th Slap Lol!! Check it out for the answer on Monday.
Attempt to unravel the mystery of revenge track - based on the 2 week period...study in retrospecive mode - PreetD on Page 16
Pictorial Commentary
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Originally posted by amrithas
This first half of the episode disgusted me! Never thought this day too would come! Madhu walks in looking innocent and lovely but RK is unaffected! (Why is he so unaffected whenever she looks pretty, like on KC and one or two other occassions) Agreed completely that the duplicate looked way better than the original myself! Thumbs up to that! Madhu n RK looked stunning together in the frame with that ornamental piece n all! For me the scene would have had its effect n beauty n heart touching moments, if RK wasn't the one to point out to do away with the stole! That just put me off so much, that the ensuing tear n his hesitation to proceed lost its magic for me! I just shut down after RK's Kameenapan! Exactly why Cvs should know where to draw the line! Would have been better if it was the director who pointed that out, btw that guy was leering n further disgusted me!
This first half of the episode disgusted me! Never thought this day too would come! Madhu walks in looking innocent and lovely but RK is unaffected! (Why is he so unaffected whenever she looks pretty, like on KC and one or two other occassions) Agreed completely that the duplicate looked way better than the original myself! Thumbs up to that! Madhu n RK looked stunning together in the frame with that ornamental piece n all! For me the scene would have had its effect n beauty n heart touching moments, if RK wasn't the one to point out to do away with the stole! That just put me off so much, that the ensuing tear n his hesitation to proceed lost its magic for me! I just shut down after RK's Kameenapan! Exactly why Cvs should know where to draw the line! Would have been better if it was the director who pointed that out, btw that guy was leering n further disgusted me!
The least said about Radhaji n Bittuji's conversation, the better!Thanks for the update on their twisted realtionship(can it even be called that)status! After what happened at the shooting, they still want to reunite and get them talking, really?For what purpose! They both should pray to Ganpati Bappa for more sense for themselves, than for RK and Madhu's reunion!
The dressing room scene was the redeeming scene of the episode for me! Madhu's siskiyaan reminded me of the night after RK returns from hospital, when Madhu was remembering him getting shot and crying! It was such a beautiful scene, this one came a close second! RK involuntarily reacts to her cries, much like that night! Her trying the chant, his almost in tears, pained reaction to her hurt was good! Special mention to the actors, especially DD! All in all a well executed scene!
Responded by Myself - MADHU's BEAUTY
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Exactly for those reasons I liked the episode. Leering...very natural in acting business. How do you expect IDYLLIC environment there ? That would be impalatable to me. I know Madhu is beautiful and I expect all sorts of commentary on her beauty. There is a price you pay for being beautiful. Why are you all so protective for Madhu ? Its sheer naturalism for me...just the way I protect myself everyday. For Madhu this was the beginning of that journey. Her beauty is going to take her to places where she never wished to be. Didn't the story start with Mukund just smitten by her beauty which started the story ? She will need to toughen up if she needs to be a single working woman with those drop-dead gorgeous looks (that's Madhu's character and reminding you if you are forgetting). Looks in the industry matter a lot.
Coming to Rads and Bittuji. Disliking them for what they do? ...then what right one has to be happy with that redeeming action from RK from the make-up room ? Without their efforts, the redeeming action would not have been visible to you. I think in the name of drama, you need to justify both your liking and disliking and not in disconnected chunks but as continuation of the entire episode.
Originally posted by anastasia21
I don't think the CVs are actually intending to use Radha and Bittooji as the cupid. Maybe a push or two here and there. But they are mostly being used to voice the viewers' doubts and concerns and also to solace them. Like saying something along the lines of 'there's still hope'.
I don't think the CVs are actually intending to use Radha and Bittooji as the cupid. Maybe a push or two here and there. But they are mostly being used to voice the viewers' doubts and concerns and also to solace them. Like saying something along the lines of 'there's still hope'.
Responded by Myself
Exactly. Called the Chorus. But also needed for RK's BBBing drama. Take them off, RK's drama gets washed away from the episodic content. You cannot just show RK at the studio the whole day. He needs to be back home. You cannot make him sit at the bar, as that kind of drinking is gone from RK character...if its back, it will be Madhu's defeat. You cannot have Bittuji and his mother in friendly chat with him...so something light happening at his home, until he settles down with his drama as well. Thing is we really do not know what kind of a person RK is and was. We just knew a part of him when Madhu was with him. It is now, we truly get to know him and so Bittuji and Rads being our connecting points to him.
When you think from writer point...you yourself think how you would have RK and Bittuji interact with RK...if them hatching plans against Madhu is not good. I mean I know I had never the creative talent...but I just don't see what's wrong with what they are doing. Anth mein wohi hona hota hai jo hona hota hai...
Originally posted by apolloartemis
Rishbala: I found Madhu's reactions during that scene very telling, even before the tears. It has been maybe 2 days since the unwedding? She still very much reacts to RK, physically and emotionally. The numbness is wearing off. I think the humiliation was about the dress, certainly, but it was about how she reacted to him. Look at her face. There is a mix there- fear, yes, but there is a reaction to his touch. She is still attracted to him. And probably hates herself for it. It certainly does not help her state of mind any.
As for RK? Like I said- it's all confusion there. He does something to hurt her deliberately, but does not follow through. He looks like he is in physical pain when he hears her cry, caresses his hand where her tears fell, runs after her without any thought when the lights go out, keeps calling her Madhu, lights up the dark for her (in face, he has a little smile as he says that line). Then the minute she slaps him, his face changes, and anger comes back.
Does he realize how much he cares? Or does his anger/ego wipe it all out? It was a little worrying how much strength he was exerting over her. Say what you will, in the before hate track, he never held her tightly enough that the fabric would rip. She was struggling against him and he was basically pinning her in place. Not done. And shows the level of his focus when it comes to her.
Does he want her out of his life? Who knows? But the way she feels towards him now, if he came with DIpali, she would probably feed them both sweets as celebration.
Which would anger him even more.
ST, I am confused.
Rishbala: I found Madhu's reactions during that scene very telling, even before the tears. It has been maybe 2 days since the unwedding? She still very much reacts to RK, physically and emotionally. The numbness is wearing off. I think the humiliation was about the dress, certainly, but it was about how she reacted to him. Look at her face. There is a mix there- fear, yes, but there is a reaction to his touch. She is still attracted to him. And probably hates herself for it. It certainly does not help her state of mind any.
As for RK? Like I said- it's all confusion there. He does something to hurt her deliberately, but does not follow through. He looks like he is in physical pain when he hears her cry, caresses his hand where her tears fell, runs after her without any thought when the lights go out, keeps calling her Madhu, lights up the dark for her (in face, he has a little smile as he says that line). Then the minute she slaps him, his face changes, and anger comes back.
Does he realize how much he cares? Or does his anger/ego wipe it all out? It was a little worrying how much strength he was exerting over her. Say what you will, in the before hate track, he never held her tightly enough that the fabric would rip. She was struggling against him and he was basically pinning her in place. Not done. And shows the level of his focus when it comes to her.
Does he want her out of his life? Who knows? But the way she feels towards him now, if he came with DIpali, she would probably feed them both sweets as celebration.
Which would anger him even more.
ST, I am confused.
Responded by Myself
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AA, Agree.
She promised to herself that she cannot be affected of him and that was wearing off with him being able to sense what her body feels. Basically her secret was being out. That made her angry today. That called out for her sobbing and that "nafrat"
She is still in retaliatory mode and her crying was all about her opponent sensing what she wants to hide...because initially it is all about her cover up which will slowly wane away as she gets time to stand on her feet, have a bit of confidence and then time to take stock of what she actually lost and what she is left with. Its pure survival now and hence her reaction at his touch. She just cannot let him know what she thinks of the entire thing...her true sensibilities. Her argument...you want me to look hurt. No I will not. And if you ask me...what's wrong in that reaction ? See I am not being selfish for seeing Rishbala all the time. For me, if Madhu doesn't behave this way, it means she never loved him that much...it would look too frivolous to me if she was not holding it precious for her and hence safegaurding it from his eyes.
Further Commentary
When the drama of their fight was happening I was...WHERE IS THE DARKNESS THAT SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF and THAT HE IS SUPPOSED TO RESCUE HER FROM. LOL!!!
When Madhu was looking at him hard, I was like...Thoda Andhera lao Bhai!!!! lol.
But as I said I am a hopeless shipper. I will watch all contrived episodes at romance without my thinking cap on.
Its like fairy dust has been thrown on you.
Frustration in the thread for their Confusion related reviews. Confusion word is the new fashion fad of the Forumites
Seeing you all so hapless about the drama shown to you...a drama of Ishq and romance...that never should have much rationale...and seeing myself so disconnected with you all...I just wanna tell you today...I will not press my like button to your posts. From here onwards, pls be assured that I will be reading your posts and that I will press like only when I truly like it. Reason being, I never like taking home negativity. Sorry peeps. Making myself honest, a thing I have been wanting to tell you all from few days.
Real matters, practical matters do need our rationale and analytical mind.
Matters of heart, like with whom we connect is lot beyond our comprehension as many a times we are not the characters...we cannot be them, we don't think like them. That's the reason good story writers and dramatists add sub-plots of human interests which stimulates our mind.
At real, I have seen my classmate in college loving my senior for 1 whole year. Drama was off-sight when our senior passed out from the college. So this girl..everyday used to cry. Not one day was there when we did not see that spectacle. It was beyond our rationale. We were like "whatever!!!! " and used to walk away from her. No sympathy, no apathy, no empathy, total indifference. She too was like that to us. Normal on all other aspects except for the spectacle she used to make of herself. She didn't care people talking to her about it and yet in 2-3 minutes she used to send out a silent message as its off-limit topic for them.
Did they get married ever, get back together ? I don't know. May be not.
Then in post grad days, in the days of residential hostel with all kinds of loneliness rampant on campus, I have seen couples behaving as if they are almost married...only to go their separate ways once college ended. I was like whatever !!!
I have not indulged myself with romances (books) when young as they never appealed to me. But I read a lot...a lot of fiction. Now when I feel old like this...I don't like to read anything but accidentally read and liked stories like "To kill a Mocking Bird" and "Such a Long Journey" and "Harry Potter" . They touched my heart. I recently read "The three Mistakes" by Chetan Bhagat and it did not touch my heart, though it was written good. I want to read "Midnight's Children" these days.
As for this MEIEJ...I think, I knew intuitively, it will have to be push and pull relationship and that too exerted by protagonists upon themselves. And that's why all drama related to them does not affect me much. Because in the end it is their love story and not mine. Why bother ?
Love unlike social ethics and decorum is not guided by any law. We just walk away from it or enjoy it. We cannot be voyeuristic about it and yet we are as long as the drama appeals to us. Friends play prank to get two friends patch up with each other, if they believe they deserve each other...if they believe they complete each other. Sometimes they don't deserve each other and yet love stories happen like "Qayamat se Qayamat Tak" and they die when people get involved in their story. And I played a prank on my friend along with my other friend to break her heart by making a mocking display of her affection for an undeserving person. Do I regret ? Nope. She was not fighting him for the hurt he gave her. She internalized all that pain and stubbornly stayed resolute and refused to do anything with it. But every personal moment of hers (not a responsible, familial or professional moment..she was still impeccable there) was hinged on that pain. I and my other friend decided we needed to break her. And we did. She went ballistic. But for us, that small victory was a miracle.
Originally posted by bhakti2
Arrey SD yaar - you have made me afraid to post sach bataoon! I am second guessing my every thought ki - is it negative or constructive? Have lots of thoughts(of course - when did you ever know me not to be full of bakwas things to write
?!) but now I am biting the nails! Just think - if you and your saheliyan were capable of terrorising your that friend so successfully, what will you do to us here? Hmmm.
?!) but now I am biting the nails! Just think - if you and your saheliyan were capable of terrorising your that friend so successfully, what will you do to us here? Hmmm.
Bhakti,
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Now I am guessing at the bolded portion
what did it mean. See my post is about my changing shift towards posts on this thread. So I am communicating my change of Like Policy that I used to adhere. From now onwards I shall read, glance but will press like only if the take home is good for me. Reason is ...I explained...I see your futility at staying confused for two people that you are not. And if you are worried, you are not even supporting people those who are for or against them. Basically you want Rishbala to be in a frame and yet you dislike that they are thrown in. Here when I read those posts, sometimes I am pulling my hair. For me simple...Show me Sense...Show me otherwise if not for this drama. Simple. Hammer down question to you. Now is that constructive explanation to you ?
what did it mean. See my post is about my changing shift towards posts on this thread. So I am communicating my change of Like Policy that I used to adhere. From now onwards I shall read, glance but will press like only if the take home is good for me. Reason is ...I explained...I see your futility at staying confused for two people that you are not. And if you are worried, you are not even supporting people those who are for or against them. Basically you want Rishbala to be in a frame and yet you dislike that they are thrown in. Here when I read those posts, sometimes I am pulling my hair. For me simple...Show me Sense...Show me otherwise if not for this drama. Simple. Hammer down question to you. Now is that constructive explanation to you ?
As for humour or Bakwaas posts...Criticizing for the sake of being Critical does not appeal to me...just like being appreciative for the sake of being appreciative does not appeal everyone. Itne saare to mood hote hain...Dikhao apna har jalwa har din...why repeat everyday same kind of rona dhona about "yeh kya confusion hai". Or may be I shall change my opinion and thing that you are watching a jig-saw puzzle and so everyday, I will have to live with your expression of the progress made on the result.
On a serious note, I liked your fun post yesterday...the humorous elements. But want to tell you. Fun also appeals to us when there is a belief involved in there. In the end...it all boils down to the level of conviction one has towards the write up. Like and Dislike are equally remarkable reactions to that level of conviction.
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Arre humne kahaan use terrorize kiya ? Woh aise chadi humpe, ki hamaare dil kaanp gaye. We both were smiling between ourselves, pained and dil zor zor se dhadak raha tha. Jab baahar nikle apne ghar jaane ko, we were like...Chalo Mission Khatm hua. Yaar, dukh to hameh bhi hua...saare raste chup the. Lekin bas tasalli thi ki usko samjha diya ki woh apne pyaar ki pooja na kare. Seriously we were pained to do that to her, but it was needed for her to move on. Problem is she is too stubborn and headstrong...never listens to anyone.
By Myself
Will this be a clue to your Confusion ?
from today's episode...
For Madhu : Hum the Deewane, Tere Deewaane
For RK : Hum Hai Deewaane, Tere Deewaane
. Though there was no touch between them. 
