Sunday, January 13, 2013

Test of Love Theme

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14th December -2012

Test of Love - Never wrong to test when you actually love someone or trust someone. Sometimes its peremptory demand from the extremely loved one.
One thing is sure from today's episode, no matter how poorly they executed it by involving clunk plots such Dips entering RK's room to brainwash him and Madhu visiting Chawl to have Trishna curse her and tell about Padmini-Shamsher fallout...They showed that Madhu will love him, but will never completely put him above everything else. She is gonna always fail him and he(RK) will have to keep learning to live with rejection and yet loving her. And Madhu will always fail to understand his need until she realizes that she hurt him bad and tries to compensate that hurt by loving him more. 


He(RK) will want her to love him in all trust and she will fail because she will always hold something back from him about her. If you see it is RK who has shared his past with Madhu and she has not shared anything about her to RK by herself. She instead shared with Rads rather freely (that's why I said lesbian tendencies in my Episode Discussion thread), but she doesn't share anything with RK. She only told him one thing...about her biological father who tried to kill her...and later it was RK who asked her for the whole story.

Madhu has problem trusting RK. That was shown this Monday or Tuesday I guess, when she said, "Dhoka to nahin doge na". You cannot be distrusting even before giving the person a chance. That is plain negativity as things doomed for bad. That morning RK was in super goner mood and hence did not get angry, but it was enough to hurt the sensitive Rishabh inside him, had Rishabh decided to raise his head.

Part of RK problem, which was poorly executed today in test of love was that he wants to be himself when with Madhu and hence will not fear to bare his heart and head before her, if he feels reassured by her that he can do it by trusting himself with her. That's where the complex subject of do you love Rishabh or RK. It was executed badly, because the writers can never be sure how viewers will understand complex subjects, so trying to show through RK as the superstar with material wealth and Rishabh as the real man. which is not actually true. RK can be real RK as well. 

But that question of "Can I trust myself with you Madhu?" in the deeper sense of Test of Love from RK end is where Madhu failed him today. She couldn't freely give her hand and hold his hand and then talk her objections. Instead she chose to retain her hand, chose to keep quiet, maintain her problems as hers. In Ganesha track too she, went behind RK's back to restore his faith. Her folly almost cost him his life. This secretive missions of her are going to be detrimental to either. In Shamsher arrest case, she went against RK and left the house in dead of night. She landed into lot of trouble. She and her family got saved because of RK. If RK was not intelligent, would he have been able to trust and forgive her ?

When Madhu encounters problems, she won't share them with her husband, when as a wife she should share information with him so that level of trust builds up between husband and wife. Instead she will hide things from him and try to tackle everything by herself. That act would actually endanger her and RK as well and RK will have clean up the mess. This is going to be sore point between them, why Madhu would not trust information with RK ? Illogical she is, and in her illogic she is going to hurt RK a lot. Why he loves her is because, this illogical woman is the only one who will allow him to be spontaneous and not be the RK superstar as she is that dumb and naive to conspire against him.

Madhu needs to learn to share herself with RK along with her duties to others, Please note...Loving is not equal to sharing yourself.

RK will now always have to be careful with her because he loves her madly and can lose himself anytime and knowing that she holds back part of her self, his pride will also get hurt if he tries to bare himself when it is not needed by her. He may trust her bit by bit if she starts to share herself with him. And boy! I have not seen Madhu do it. Not that there is a lot Madhu can tell about her past...but she hardly speaks to him. Does RK actually know who Madhu is other that her being a goner fo him ? 

They needed to know each other before they could have fallen in love. Alas, they fell in love without knowing each other. Ab bhugto !!! Now start learning about each other !!!

Responded by SD
Originally posted by kt25



@Shri - In response to your post for @charu you had mentioned that Madhu has been subjected to the test of love by RK and I understand him wanting to know how far she would go for him. But if we are talking about test for love shouldn't it be for both parties involved? 

As far as RK, she failed as a lover and a wife. But what about him? How did he fare in his test of love? The one that Madhu had not given him but still isn't it obvious that she was also testing him indirectly by saying no to going away with him.

Poor Madhu! I just feel terrible for her.
Priya,

No, both parties need not test each other at the same time. One gives the test and other takes the test. One at a time.

If you still want to think if Madhu tested RK and RK failed her...then it is the test for attending dinner. Madhu put RK to a test of love when he was not even prepared for it. She invited RK for lunch, an RK who was in zapped state, in dream-like stupor, while she was all on tentacles and hence apprehensive that he may not turn up...She voiced it..."Dhoka to nahin doge?" The Zapped RK didn't even realize he was being tested.  When he was actually leaving the mansion, he heard Radhaji and Bittuji making a big deal out of it, that he in anger did not feel it as test, but just as something that he did not want to make others feel great about it when he was hurting inside. And he remembered that he was being tested with him remembering "Dhoka" and her apprehensive eyes when it was already too late in the night.

In the second context above, I am not with you. She was not testing the way.
I don't feel terrible for Madhu. It was bound to happen. Both have hurt each other.
Its okay, if they both failed each other. Sky has not fallen. They will learn to pass if tested next time in the same manner (not a different situation).


Originally posted by manesha76
SD awesome post 
First of all i am glad that you made a separate post . You have written everything so beautifully . I always felt Madhu's trust towards RK is very less . I would not blame Madhu for that . Their marriage happened in unusual circumstances & RK is also very unpredictable . Madhu has yet to understand RK very well . I think now in next Track Rishabala's understanding will reach next level . I think both will start trusting eachother more . 

Thank you Manesha.

They trust each other for what they are individually. 
They don't trust each other for what they are to each other. They need to teach themselves to become a unit. For that they need to work together by becoming a team.

The reason for them to become the team is what the love confession was about. They love each other to limits. Misfortunately it did not turn out the way each expected the other to respond to their love, nevertheless it cannot be denied that they love each other. And hence they shall be together with the bond of love and they should try to infuse trust in their relationship as a unit now.

You know marriages work more when partners trust each other. Some marriages work with trust and married kind of love. In Rishbala's case, to make things difficult, they have had a marriage that either of them took time to accept. So now they consider themselves married, they confessed to each other that they love each other, now they should know their personalities, accept each other as they are and allow the marriage to function. That is where the conflict is now. Both of them still want to function independently of the other, just because they feel they cannot burden the other for fear of disapproval(Madhu) or unwantedness(RK).

So is the coming up track really about this ? Let's wait and watch.

Originally posted by stressrelief
nice post     rk and madhu love eachother but they dont trust eachother   i think cvs are doing it wrong way

Infact they are addressing it the right way.

Love and Trust are not the same.
They aid each other, but are not the same. 

Love is soft and tensile in bonding. It is endearing and emotional exaltation, pleasurable and can only exert so much. 

Trust is about belief, making it work and nothing about softness or bonding. It is strength when present and weakness when absent coz to have it makes one reliant, dependable and confident to care, execute or binds you to execute.

After pleasure and playtime, its always the homework to be taken care of 

Responded by AA
Wonderful analysis Shri and completely accurate. RK and Madhu's level of love for each other far exceeds their level of trust-on both sides. If RK trusted Madhu to the extent he's been proclaiming to all and sundry he would never have been instigated by Diputz's words and he would not have failed her based on a split second of hesitation.
There is also the fact that I don't think Madhu really believes that RK trusts her and so she does not trust him. Two reasons: 1) You've pointed out the circumstances in which they married- taking into account that and what he did before (breaking her trust via the press conference), those scars will take time to fade. It's a testemant to her insanity that she fell in love with him in the first place, baring his wounds to her or no. As you said, sharing yourself is not loving someone, and is infinately harder. 2) Whenever RK has shared something of himself to Madhubala, it has always been under emotional duress and he has always pulled back from her until she pushes. It gives the impression that he regrets sharing himself with her, and has no intention of doing so delibrately. Not an invitation for a heaping dollop of trust in return.
We talked about character flaws as well, remember? Madhu's has always been that she places others above herself- and what 2-3? months of marriage will not erase that. She placed Mukund above her own family interests, so why are we surprised that she thinks of Radha and Trishna? She will lose those traits as she has lost the others, along with way as she matures.
Finally way too early in the Rishbala relationship for them to trust each other the way both of them need. But I hope this track forces some character growth on Madhu so she can pave the way for a better relationship- a healthy relationship is not something RK can foster in my mind.
Hope this rambling made some sense- can't be as awesome as your post, but you do inspire me to write this stuff so you have to pay the price.

Responded by Charu
wonderful analysis Shri, not just this one but all the replies too..it was a delight reading the entire thread..

frm this point on, the story will progress in a different manner ..bec. now they r in love and they have confessed their love to each other ! although, RK is angry, and i have no idea where it will lead him , the fact remains unchanged that Madhu is becoming his obsession and it's growing on him day by day..look at the way he scolded Rajesh for leaving Madhu alone and how he reacted when Madhu was about to get hurt with the glass pieces on the floor ! in the precap too, he cud not stop himself frm caring for her...now his love will be with him forever and ever !! he will not let go off her... whether Madhu loves RK or Rishabh, whether she loves him for his money or charm, he loves her frm the bottom of his heart , that should be sufficient for him...therez no way by which he cannot feel the warmth and love frm Madhu's end , it will melt him one day..

both of them working as a team is difficult for the time being..they're already heading for a separation..otherwise how will Balraj cause damage to Madhu and Padmini? Trishna's curse will work for the time being...either he will send her to chawl or she will go on her own...RK will appear towards the end of Balraj track, most likely...the only good thing which they showed is the confession, which will bind them together , whether therez separation or MU ..perhaps the story will be back on track after VD rejoins ..

Originally posted by pnars
Why can't our serials be as sophisticated as these analyses? They actually are, I suppose, but the execution inevitably fails :(

Coming to our beloved couple, I read through the thread and am reluctantly coming round to your pov that Madhu needs to open herself up. By the same token, shouldn't RK trust her more as well? He set up a test doomed for failure yesterday (yes it was - he kept pushing and pushing till she said no), moreover a test designed by his ex of all people (wait till Madhu hears of his - the Sherni will really unsheath her claws then).

Then my dear, think hard. Was it actually Dipali who drove RK to confess his feelings for Madhu, or was it Madhu who made him insecure ? Forget what was shown. Feel what you saw the outcome as.

The guy was happy silently loving his Biwi. He had no expectations from her, to love him back.
Then she starts loving him. He notices that, feels it and yet stays or shows as if nothing is going on. But already the pleasure was getting into his head. Then Biwi goes for a sixer with Karva Chauth, a thing he cannot ignore...though he tries not to come for his principles, he decided to go back to her.

So who called him forcibly to her ? Madhu.

Then,they have a beautiful evening. Two people in love...can they really help each other ? No. He still tries to go back to his couch. She manages to keep him by her side.

Who raised his hopes ? Madhu

Then she invited him to a family lunch in the dead of night like to show him off a trophy. Bhai Kis baat ke liye ? God! I could not understand that. Not that I am not romantic. But I just plainly refuse to do illogical things. Then in morning, he is still dazed and she is all serious. She is apprehensive that he may not come. So indirectly did she not put him to test ? And like her he too had not realized that this was his test which he had to pass. 

So he failed her test.

By this time he snapped out of love-lorn state and he is actually asking himself, how far he can trust himself with her. 

Who has trust issues?  Him. Does MB know about that ? Yes. Didn't he tell her ? Yes. Does she have to remember ? No. Can he hope that she understands him ? Yes.

That's where the problem is. Its not just his test to see how far Madhu loves him. Its a test for him to know his THRESHOLD on how much he can allow himself to be exposed to her in this love -- the giving and expectation of the return.

If Madhu has same madness towards his questions and answers just like her actions, then he is validated. But then, there was a mismatch between words and actions. On one side she said, you are my Duniya and on another side she did not give her hand when he asked to come away with him.

If I was in Madhu's place, when RK confessed where the car broke down, I would have been dazed and thinking. I would not have nagged him again to repeat his confession back at the farmhouse, only to hold back myself.

If RK thinks he is jinxed in love and therefore needed to be reassured by Madhu that she will always be with him, whichever manner that essence comes up, and therefore the test of love for his threshold limit of expectation to contain his disappointment levels, to stay in control, MB also felt responsible for all other people other than RK. For her RK was a Pleasure principle which could be enjoyed later after she attends to the cares of the world. She did not realize that infact it was other way round that RK was hurting and he needed her badly more than anyone else, and he rightly said, you love RK and not Rishabh, because the pleasure principle that Madhu felt was from RK persona and she failed to see the other hurting Rishabh, I guess now she understands.

Now the question of Madhu testing RK's love...many are outraged and have said many things...I will say that, RK will always pass in MB's test when push comes to shove. Why because, he does not raise hopes like MB and then he obliges the unsaid expectation...that is his character. RK biggest point of loving MB is that he loves her inspite of her wounding him bad. Please don't think that she does not hurt him. She hurts him all the time, but the guy sees her good intentions and therefore asks himself to let it go.

Others Takes
By Tanu
They should have packed RK's reasons for falling in love with Madhu in yday's episode itself… I wouldn't be feeling so lost today! The impact of those beautiful lines was lost due to the last few minutes of madness. This is a beautiful story so I am willing to be patient… though I would love to whack each character on their head today.
What happened today was sad… one bogged by insecurity and the other bound by sense of duty. Though no one can be blamed, I wish sanity had prevailed on both… but then if the rational mind had been at work the beautiful confession would not have come.
As romantic as it sounds even the thought of RK leaving behind his hard earned success is not done! He might find the entire stardom hollow… but he enjoys his job, doesn't he? So he better not be serious about it. And I just wish Madhu had thought about that when questioned. It seemed farfetched to actually believe RK and Madhu would have disappeared never to return. That is something I wanted both of them to realise which they sadly didn't. Now I really want RK to sit back and think if he wants to leave RK behind? Def not! He might say a hundred things but he is never going to leave Radha to the mercy of the Bhatias and disappear so why hold it against Madhu. I completely understand that he just needed her to put her hand in his without a second thought… I relate to his vulnerability and disappointment…yet I felt he should have trusted himself… trusted the belief that made him stop her from admitting her love because he already knew. I am sure the faith will come back... matter of time. 
Coming to Madhu…forgetting what I told RK… I just wish u had given ur hand in his… allowed yourselves to settle down… may be even take a long holiday…but convince him to return. That was not to happen so time to go into damage control. Please connect the dots… Dipali's conversation, RK's disappearance, his confession and his heartbreak. RK loves you Madhu, he loves you for standing upto him, fighting him… so just go ahead and fight. If you love the man, he is worth it.
After seeing this episode… I realised I like RK more than Rishab! RK is much more fascinating, strong as a character. Watching the last scene when Rishab just crumbled seeing Madhu's hesitation made me realise how strong RK had to be to hold fort. It is important for him believe that RK does not only stand for materialistic world… he is lot more. He needs to realise that he has fallen in love with Madhu as RK. You listen to his reasons for falling in love with Madhu… They were RK's reason… not Rishab's.  More importantly if RK vs Rishab is going to be full blown track, then in the end I want RK and Rishab as one.
Precap  - did he just drop Madhu off at the chawl? If yes, then he better head out to the farmhouse himself. Till he gets a sane head on his shoulders he isnt going infront of Dipali. I wonder how Madhu-Malik interaction will pan out. Will she ignore him ya cry on his shoulders? How will Malik react? stand up for his daughter or his crime robbed him of that right :-s What Bittuji does to save his fave lovestory is to be seen :)
I wish Malik doesn't ask RK for a favour… else this guy will be further disillusioned thinking that people only use him. Trishna, a warning… you don't insult RK's biwi and expect him to grant you a favour.  
I liked it when Malik said he believes Padmini will come home someday. Bring on Balraj to get this story moving. However I still want RK to play a part in Malik-Padmini story, if there is any.
This time around a weekend is welcome… the week has been a roller coaster ride… need to cool off to gear up for a not so pleasant week next week.
By apolloartermis
A bittersweet episode which leads us to the next chapter of Rishbala's love story- what that is, I have no clue.
Basically everything we've been saying over the past few weeks came to the fore today- RK's love is fed by Madhu's, his care is fed by Madhu's- he knows how much she loves him- there is no doubt in his mind now that she has so fervently declared her feelings. I found it interesting that he said that she loves RK, not Rishab- while for us the two have been blending, it's clear in RK's mind that the berlin wall is standing between him and Rishab.
What is even more illuminating is what he said to Madhu: You are my hearbeat, my love, my obsession, my madness. Having given himself over so fully, how can he extricate RK from Madhu now? The look of devastation on his face sent a twinge down my heart, and that's kudos to VD's acting- but I was equally devastated by the look on Madhu's face. The poor girl didn't even get 10 minutes to savor the love confession, let alone the kiss! before the man she loves accuses her of loving his veneer, not him. How insulting for someone like her, who has always looked past his trappings. And now, she'll have to cross that river of fire for him to prove that she loves him- RK and Rishab, not one or the other. Phase two of their love story.
But these painful times will only add flavor to their destinies- however much they want to stay away from each other, however much they hurt each other, they can never be apart. RK loves Madhu. When he hated her he pursued her with a single minded intensity. Now that crazy love is mixed in with that renewed hate/hurt- what lengths will he go to? What will be his goal?
That is the intersting part for me- RK loves Madhu, and knows that Madhu loves RK (not Rishab, whatever, keep you delusions you infant). So what is the next step? Do you punish her for not loving you the way you want her to? How do you punish her? Do you start severing all her bonds so she has no choice but to turn to you? What do you do, superstar?
In Madhu's case I figure she'll be practical- forgive Shamsheer, get her family together, and go back to fixing her relationship with RK. If during the course of this she can smack Diputz around a few times, I won't be unhappy. Again I will reiterate this to CV's if by some miracle they are reading this: her function is done- please start giving importance to other players now.
It's actually very exciting how this track is going to play out- only because I am hoping CV's will not go the cliched seperation route. Please, try something new. I have no idea what's going to happen next. Let's strap in for a wild ride, people. Those are the most fun.LOL
One thing: In the precap, where is he taking her? I like how he now cannot stay away from her at all. The relationship that started from the head has now fully taken over his heart. And he can't cut this relationship because the intensity is coming from both ends- it's not one-sided.
Also- Leela, I know you hate Radunce- I'm not her biggest fan either. But please cut our poor Madhu some slack? It's not about radunce, it's about RK, and healing RK's wounds- think of it that way, it'll help with the blood pressure

By Hima
Saw the episode in bits and am very disappointed with the accusation of Madhu loves RK and not Rishabh...Even if the CV's wanted to bring in Rishabh's insecurities it could have made sense if it was on the line of Madhu not prioritizing him and giving importance to others over him...That could have went with his possessive streak and needy self...Yes...rich and famous who are always swarmed by people for their selfish reasons could be vulnerable into doubting the intent of everyone even the genuine ones...but,there isn't even a single instance that could make RK believe that about Madhu...It just doesn't add up at all...
                   or is it that he himself despises the weak and needy Rishabh so much that he thinks its impossible for anyone to fall in love with that persona...hence is justifing that the attraction and deewangi of madhu is for the strong,famous,rich,successful and handsome RK and not for the weak,vulnerable,needy,pitiable and looser Rishabh...did he fall into the trap of these self depreciating feelings...?? but, doesn't he know that Madhu fell not for the jaanwar,heartless RK but,for the humane,heartwala Rishabh who infact has even become the qwaazi and moula for her...The misunderstanding seemed so baseless ... I am only hoping RK would soon realize it and we are saved from this nonsensical torture...

By Hima on RK versus Rishabh
After watching the drama,reading everyone's ideas, analyses and my own effort to try to understand this complex character, this is my take on RK and Rishabh...I  hope I made sense...let me know..  Tongue

RK is the mind and Rishabh is the heart of the very same person...Rishabh/The heart is very deep,intense,volatile and frag ail too...he can't see logic,is not practical and doesn't understand the convenient, necessary requirements or adjustments of life...its even more hard for him in the matters of loved ones...11 year old Rishabh with the heart of gold came face to face with the brutal realities of ife when his father died and mother remarried...the trauma at that tender age left him scarred...he couldn't cope with it,make sense of it and the way he dealt his anger,hurt,bitterness is by closing his heart and giving rise to RK who doesn't posses a heart that beats but, a mind that is logical, shrewd,receptive and not only understand but can even manipulate the worldly dealings...he compensates for Rishabh's lack of self esteem and boosts his ego and lives with pride...now this RK is not a different person...he is another part of that very same boy...the mind minus the heart...he is menacing and nasty and puts up a tough exterior so as not to let even his own thoughts (from his mind)  reach his heart (that is Rishabh) in fear that they could turn into  tender feelings...This is to protect fragile Rishabh/his heart who knows only to love and feel and has no clue of how to deal or cope with any possible heartache..to let go and move on...

          On the party night Radhaji confronts RK and tells him of how hurt his father would be ...the tough RK becomes vulnerable and lets his thoughts of attraction,admiration,pity, sympathy on MB along with his own guilt and sense of wrong find their way in to his heart/Rishabh and makes him go soft on his enemy MB...from then on it was always Rishabh/heart and RK/mind who have been dealing,interacting and reacting to his biwi...In the matters of love his heart/Rishabh overpowers his mind/RK,his logical self and hence becomes very fragile and open to hurt and  fear,the result of his past trauma which is left untreated...In the past two episodes its Rishabh who sensed MB near his farm house,it was Rishabh who confessed his feelings,who said he knew of Madhu's love even before she said it loud and its the same Rishabh/heart who gave rise to fear,assumed the worst even before listening, was disappointed,dejected and heartbroken...but,that is all today...tomorrow the Rishabh who could sense and trust the genuineness of his biwi along with RK who is logical  are going to fight out the fear and doubt...MB with her endurance,patience and compassion is going to strengthen, blend and bring the balance of both his heart and mind i.e.Rishabh and RK in to one...and that would be the completion of healing of the devastated and traumatised 11 year old innocent boy... Smile

Originally posted by kodai

The discussions here really helped me get over a lousy episode - they just spoiled it as no one remembers  the beauty of the love confession.


About what RK has done for Madhu, I think he has kept his end of the relationship as far as
 "T-R-U-S-T" goes. Not coming to lunch when you have promised to come makes one feel let down, but it's not end of the world. He came for Karwa-Chauth, inspite of ego, principles because not coming would mean not acknowledging the relationship.  

RKreminds me of this sentence from Pride and Prejudice regarding Darcy and Wickham - "One has all the goodness and one has all the appearance of it" ( or something similar). RK has all the goodness and hardly any  appearance of it.

Reg Madhu, Madhu says He is her Duniya and when he tests it, when push comes to shove, she  backs off.  The least she could have done is to give her hand and  later think on the logistics of implementing it.  When someone asks reassurance and it's their lifeline, you don't ponder on it, you just give them the lifeline.

responded by SD to Kodai's post
Kodai,
You made my morning. I was not so depressed yesterday, as I got today here and read those last few pages and few pms (some have not decided to spoil the thread with agonized rants). And I was pulled into the pain (very hard), that I steered cleared of yesterday.

All of that you said there, each para grows upon me.  
And @ bold ...not just reassurance being beseeched through eyes, but being requested by a hand forwarded. How much more of the need can be expressed so directly and how much more of hold-back one can have at not taking the hand. 

Blame the CVs for it ? Yes, I want to. But then really Shridevi!?  Do you want to crucify them? Hell No !!!. For at least they broke the bubble between RIshbala. For both the persons since Ganesha track, seemed to be losing themselves, now at least they will go back to what they are and if they still love each other to madness, may as well do something about it. The drama was getting boring anyways with Dipali's induced catalysis. Wasn't it ?

Test of Love Revisited - January 12th 2013


The Test of Love Theme is revisited again exactly a month later on January 12th 2013. Earlier it was Dipali who instigated RK to test Madhu's love if she loves RK or Rishabh as shown to us on Dec 12th 2012

And here I am summarizing what some of our friends had to speak on this.

By dramacrazy12

I think, I am dumb emotionally some times but I have had a challenge understanding why testing in love is a bad thing or why what prompted the test should matter?
The fact remains that Madhu herself asked for a test of love which ended up in Rk to propose. The fact remains that Madhu knows that RK has been hurt emotionally several times so he is bound to have trust issues and other emotional baggage. The fact remain Rk has gone out of his way to protect her/her family and indulge her and he just stated that she passed the test with flying colors. Fact remains that Madhu should be aware by now that Dipali is a troublemaker and liar not to mention she wants to break Rishbala apart.
In my mind the only hurtful pieces in the whole scenario are
1)Test implies that RK has been holding a piece of himself back and had retained the capability to walk away if he wanted to while Madhu was a complete goner.
2)RK is not healed completely yet and this implies that he can quickly fall back to distrusting/testing Madhu at the prompting of a third party
3)It is hard for Madhu to discern where the test ended and truth began. Was there any truth in anything RK did or said or felt? Does he feel anything for her or not?


By Munni_123

About yesterday's episode. Is RK wrong in testing Madhu's love?

Rishabh , who loved his father immensely lost his father which he never expected. He failed there.
His mom married again  and he lost his mom( he thought so) He thought he failed again.
Deepali ditched him . He thought he faced another failure which is very big and these failures changed Rishabh to RK who is smart, shrewed and wants to win anything at any cost.

In the beginning episodes  there was a dailog he says to bittuji. 
Jab RK saath ho toh haarne ki baat hi nahi hoti hai.

He never got unconditional love in his life so far. But things  have changed whe Madhubala came to his life. he got the attention, love from her which he never thought he will get in his life.
He accepted it and happy about it. The failures till now he faced definitely raise doubts in him. The doubt which is hiding somewhere in his mind was triggered by Deepali's words. It acted as a catalyst. 
When he got to know about Madhu's intentions he is on top of the world. He got gold medal. For him he is not testing Madhu's love. He is testing his own destiny which is full of failures till now. Like a kid who got a distinction after getting only 35 marks all the time he wants to show that he got distinction to the world especially to Deepali .

Life tests us everyday in different ways and makes us what we are. Rishabh was tested and failed and became RK. 


About Madhu -  She got unconditional love from people around her. Though she faced hurdles from her father she got Malik who loves her immensely without any relation or bond. She 
got Roma, Trishna, and her mom. She always passed in distinction in the tests given by life.

Her father tried to kill her - she got Malik
RK wants to destroy her and married her  - She got love, respect from the same man who humiliated her. 
She never faced failure like Rishabh faced. It is a blow to her when she listened RK and Deepali's convo.

Both are correct in their perspectives, my POV.


By Myself responding to Munni

Munni,
And I concur with your POV regarding the love test.

And I want to add my thoughts here so that we all remember when  we watch the episode tomorrow.

On Dec 18th episode this happened:
Madhu says: Pyaar saabit karne ka koi tareeka hai to batao.
RK answers: Meri Sharte sunke to tum darr (something like that word) gayi !

This conversation is TACIT agreement that Madhu is okay with her proving herself of rather willing to QUALIFY for RK's LOVE  as she is OKAY to have CONDITIONAL GRANT by Rishabh Kundrato be allowed by him to love him as it was him who felt Madhu does not love him.

So, I am really not sure why Madhu was so shocked in yesterday's episode but assuming that she must be upset that he was boasting all of this to Dipali or rather she did not like Dipali being there or rather this was just the test and that they are not actually going anywhere. So I am actually confused why Madhu was so upset like that and hence my entire analysis yesterday was focussed on DIPALI-MADHU-RK break-up vis-a-vis the ugly twisted relationship the three have and no one is able to burn it to end it...although stage is set now. Since CVs created this drama and NOT the actual characters, I have expressed by concerns like others. 

By dramacrazy12 responding to Munni_123

Originally posted by Munni_123
When he got to know about Madhu's intentions he is on top of the world. He got gold medal. For him he is not testing Madhu's love. He is testing his own destiny which is full of failures till now.
About Madhu -  She got unconditional love from people around her. Though she faced hurdles from her father she got Malik who loves her immensely without any relation or bond. She 
got Roma, Trishna, and her mom. She always passed in distinction in the tests given by life.
She never faced failure like Rishabh faced. It is a blow to her when she listened RK and Deepali's convo.
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Loved your perspective Munni, You managed to put in words what I was thinking...Clap
I would like to add to this...
Madhu never truly faced a test alone, even when she went through hardships, there was always a very strong support standing by her. When RK humiliated her...he family stood by her, when RK was shot...Radha and Padmini stood by her, when Bhatias humiliated her ...RK stood by her. Almost all her efforts paid ...in some ways more than expected.
In contrast RK had to struggle alone...everyone wanted to partake in rewards of his success but no one wanted to share in his struggle or tests. Kuku Bhatia tried to launch his son but did Radha take a step to get Kuku help in RK's launch? He gave his all to each of his major relationships -Dad, mother and Dips  but each of them walked away for thier own reasons and no fault of his. If he is fearful that Madhu will do the same then he is justified in that fear.
In some ways while RK has traversed a very rocky road ...Madhu still has her rose colored glasses on . I have mentioned this again and again that Madhu constantly surprises me with her simplicity (to the point of dumbness as is obvious with the way she deals with Dips)and the fact that she has not understood her husband or his hurt (as obvious by the way she keeps trying to push Radha down RK's throat).
She truly needs to grow up ...I hope this track will provide her that opportunity.

Responded by dramacrazy12 towards SD's post

Originally posted by 0-SD-0
And I want to add my thoughts here so that we all remember when  we watch the episode tomorrow.

On Dec 18th episode this happened:
Madhu says: Pyaar saabit karne ka koi tareeka hai to batao.
RK answers: Meri Sharte sunke to tum darr (something like that word) gayi !

This conversation is TACIT agreement that Madhu is okay with her proving herself of ratherwilling to QUALIFY for RK's LOVE  as she is OKAY to have CONDITIONAL GRANT by Rishabh Kundra to be allowed by him to love him as it was him who felt Madhu does not love him.

So, I am really not sure why Madhu was so shocked in yesterday's episode but assuming that she must be upset that he was boasting all of this to Dipali or rather she did not like Dipali being there or rather this was just the test and that they are not actually going anywhere. So I am actually confused why Madhu was so upset like that and hence my entire analysis yesterday was focussed on DIPALI-MADHU-RK break-up vis-a-vis the ugly twisted relationship the three have and no one is able to burn it to end it...although stage is set now. Since CVs created this drama and NOT the actual characters, I have expressed by concerns like others. 
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Agreed...I mentioned this yesterday too that I see no reason for Madhu to feel hurt ...she asked him to test her and he did. As a matter of fact she failed his test first time...he cheated by granting her allowance to fix the families to make her pass the test. I guess he wanted it so bad that he decided to cut her some slack.
Even God is said to test the faith of his devotees then why should love be any different specifically under the light of the fact that Rishbala love started in a very unconventional way and both have ample reason to want to hurt each other/destroy each other and there is no other weapon as powerful or as hurtful as love. It might sound unsavory when you say it out loud, but the fact is we test all our relationships in our small little ways every single day- sometimes life forces us to do it , sometimes we do it as a choice.
Interestingly I think that life has tested Rishbala love and faith on each other again and again. It tested RK for faith when he found out that Shamsher was out to kill him and when he shared his past, it tested him again for fidelity when Dips tried to seduce him, It tested him yet again for compromise when Madhu wanted him to attend the Karwa chauth and then again for understanding when Madhu failed his test.
Similarily life tested Madhu for humanity when RK got shot, for faith at KC. She failed the test of love  but later passed the test of faith when she agreed to follow RK to end of the world. The current scenario is a retest of faith and love.
Having said it the current track is dealt with maturity a lot can come out of it-
1) Closure of past- RK has always clubbed the betrayal of his parents (which I think is an over-reaction) and that of Dips in same category. He needs to understand his parent's betrayal was a result of circumstances beyond thier control while Dip's was a matter of choice --- Big difference. Also his parents did not mean to hurt him while Dips probably did. Once he realizes that he will be able to let go of his fears, forgive Radha and move on. Radha sharing her side of story and circumstances surrounding Mohan Kundra's death.
2)Madhu needs to understand her husband and his fears. She also needs to know he might be intelligent but he is not infallible. He is vulnerable too in some ways and he needs her to guide him when he is wrong. She also needs to understand that there are people out to hurt them and with ulterior motives. If she wishes to hold onto RK then she has to work for it and be practical. Her being goody two shoes is not going to work in his world.
3)Dips chapter should be closed at least temporarily for some time.
4) A revisiting of the decision to leave it all and live in anonymity vs trying to have the best of both the worlds.
On a different note, I wonder how the Maliks and Kundras will feel when they find out that Trishna decided to sign up with Balraj and keep him a secret despite knowing how big of a danger he was to her family. Will they feel betrayed?


By Myself 

And continuing on the same Love Test Track...which is the vehicle for the CVs to reach destinations as Radha - Drama, Trishna -Drama and Malik-Padmini  as Primary Focus of the CVs

Madhu had these three impediments -Radha, Trishna and Malik-Padmini and she failed the test the first time.

So RK fixed Malik-Padmini issue for Madhu which was also part of Trishna's problem.
Then RK started working on Trishna issue and hence Balraj induced drama.
The last of these drivers is Radha.  Now Radha-RK's patch up in real sense being an obsession for Madhu...since Madhu promised to Radha during Ganesha Festival, the CVs seem to be using any device available for them to have Madhu negotiate with RK to patch up with his mother...She needs him to call her "MAA" and Radha keeps reminding Madhu to do that for her. And hence Madhu is always more about her promises to Radha than what Rishabh actually wants. Madhu is a smart negotiator and changes her strategy of priorities based on the situation. So if situation demands of her to prioritize Rishabh than anyone else, she prioritizes him, if she sees him all well and cosy, she goes about making him to all other things that she wants. She has always her own agenda. Rishabh does not even sense it when actually Madhu starts doing it, though he allows her doing it...like the matter of her forcing him to reconcile with his Ganesha. Now this time she is doing with Radha. Any hurt that Rishabh seems to inflict on her, she immediately uses the opportunity to ask of him what she wants. Like she asked last time to go and ask for Rads forgiveness if he wants her to support Padmini and Malik's marriage. Its just that Rishabh understands her and does please her in a different manner, she puts her agenda to back-seat to address it again later. 

This trait of Madhu as the Preserver for Rishabh Kundra had started coming up since they both accepted their marriage as reality since Ganesha track days. We can see how, she obsessively is after forcing things to him and breaking his Rishabh walls of privacy:
  1. Restoring your Faith, 
  2. Reconciliation with your father's death, 
  3. If accepted the marriage with me, then better live it as well...like I cook and you eat (sarson ka saag-khana khilana), I take care of you and you let yourself be cared (recovery track), I pray for you and you let me do that (KC track)
  4. and now working on your issues with your mother.

Just that its pathetic that, Dipali-Handling is not yet on her RADAR for his and her preservation For God's sake she was throwing you out of your own house against your own husband's wishes

Let me not start again with the clunk that Dipali introduced through this love test track. In my opinion, there should have been a different way to handle RK insecurities. I have never approved of Dipali's instrumental hand (becomes her blessing actually) in actually making Madhu do all the above listed things for RK. If not for Dipali, Madhu would never have started on that path. How pathetic is that ?  

And in all this ...the Pawn for the drama is the Drama King himself...Rishabh Kundra. What a paradox it is that he is being played by these two women like a football...manuvering him to reach their goal post.


Episode 169 - 13th Jan 2013

TEST of LOVE and the Repercussions

What will happen now...Chan se toota dil !!!

Plotlines and Story
Liked the dramatic content of the episode today, but much of it was predictable for the plotlines and required dynamic shift towards story development and may be partly to cover VD absence (8 more episodes to go until Ballu gets the chance to create hungama).

Over character development - Both husband and wife have shown lot of immaturity around theTest of Love induced by the SIL Dipali Bhatia. RK buys his SIL's gameplan and his Biwi today shows to him as if she felt belittled by her because RK tested at her prompting. And I am like Madhu...since when you developed that sense. Shocked

But then I have a BIGGER MENTAL BLOCK to even SWALLOW that Madhu does not feel a tinge of anger/possessiveness/pride/self-esteem at what Dips does to her and her husband...since Dips introduction. Then what right she has to take her husband to a moral stand that he tested her as if all her self-esteem is lost that she failed. 

I mean Madhu, when did you show that you have some pride left in you? You take the shit from Trishna, Dips but always give it back full to this man called RK. You say he insulted you so many times. Was it when you had hate marriage ? Or was it when you started accepting him as is ? or was it when he started supporting you ? or was it when you started loving him?

What prompts you to always be prodding him into doing something. [Now this plotline...is a lil bit getting boring to me...it reminds me of GB Shaw's "Man and Superman". It is the woman driven Lifeforce all along ! Its like Strindberg's "The Father", where the woman can manipulate any result with the drama or emotion she creates around her man. Atleast Shaw entertained me with his hero accepting what his woman does to him and how he has to surrender to her.]

The moment your mother gives you sanction to take the marriage forward, you went ahead and fell in love with him in full swing as in in your imagination, you asked him to love you back. How healthy is that ? How about just asking once..."RK's what's the current relationship between us ? You claim before everyone that I am your wife inspite of the 4 phera marriage. So can I truly go ahead and act as your wife ?" How about that logic? [Not unbelievable from a 22 yr old girl. She is already close to being a Post graduate LOL ]But Nope! I cannot expect that else, how will the junoons come up ?

And Rishabh Kundra, you had it coming. Like an idiot, unable to control that Dips factor. What did I call you then ? Sexually undeveloped person..."The boy trapped in a Man's Body". [I have several posts, so I will not bore the readers with my links.]

My friend Peach called you "The boy is the father to the Man" albeit in much sympathetic manner.

Having made much of an ado of your parents had been your undoing...you had to go and talk to two women...your Dips and your Madhubala Rishabh Kundra...difference being one you made a rishta from your heart and other you made a rishta from head. Wish you had stuck to the rishta from head and never listened to your rishta from heart and all this testing would not have happened.

Well !!! You do deserve the lecture your Biwi gave you regarding your parents today for becoming the 12 year old Rishabh and asking for her love rather than just being the 29 year old RK and just maturely behaving and living a fruitful marriage. 

In all these days, it was Rishabh who was executing the drama...I stopped seeing RK. LOLBut then I always wanted Rishabh and RK to be slapped out of his failures. Not that I don't agree on Rishabh's hurts. I agree, but I wanted him to move on...I wanted him to grow up. I wanted the reconciliation between Rishabh and RK which was not allowing him to function properly. I wanted RK to be slapped for pampering the Rishabh inside him. So I was telling you all along, this is just fixing track...The past needs to be burned...

There ends my scolding ...So Madhu was the wiser as always...big picture when it comes to getting thru to her husband...she always says RK and she always chose RK over Rishabh...like when she said...its not my nature to cry and weep with you, just that I loved RK, so I played along with Rishabh.

Dammit!!! Why did the dialogue writer not add RK versus Rishabh in Madhu's dialoguestoday which was part of the "Test of Love theme". It would have made perfect sense and foil to Rishabh-Dips drama with Madhu just addressing RK what an idiot that Rishabh is.

Poor RK...he is always sandwiched between what he wants and how Rishabh keeps rearing his immature head LOL

RISHBALA -Next phase of their relationship
Anyways...I rest my case here saying that...though Madhu's lecture for Rishabh Kundra the person that she got married to was good, but a lot of the things she said to him there was way OUT of LINE. Everything that she said can be answered back and I am just waiting for more to be revealed. Hope both the characters learn something else other than just loving ? I mean they always trusted the other person for what he or she is and can do...but now if they learn to trust themselves as a unit, and let no one play with their relationship, that shall be a treat to see. They need to respect each other as their partner from their vantage of a couple in love and not just respect each other outside their room. The symbolic nuisance of the pillows wall still makes them two islands. They can respect each other into not trespassing the limits even without those pillows. So far I see more distrust from Madhu's end regarding RK (Dhoka to nahin doge dialogue yaad rakhna sab) with regards to their marriage and hesitation from RK towards Madhu to honour the marriage because the way he married her has created a lot of shame and guilt in him, which he just covers up with his attitude.

So the next stage for them is to respect each other as their life partners and build their relationship with the love they have for each other. The very first respect for their marriage or love by either of them will be reflected if they handle Dips factor who had openly disrespected their marriage by repeatedly calling Aadha adhoora marriage, 2 kaudi ki madhubala, 4 pheron ki Biwi or 4 pheron ka pati.  And this should be achieved before they even think of going for a saat phera marriage...because RESPECT from OTHERS comes when YOU HAVE SELF-RESPECT for your marriage or rishta whatever it is. And both the individuals never ever cared to show the respect to other in regard. Neither RK showed full respect to his marriage by not making a public display of the pillows wall nor Madhu showed Dipali the way out of her room. Her husband and his status was clearly at jeopardy and Madhu had no pangs...all this because, marriage with RK never mattered to her.  So ENOUGH of LOVE and START SHOWING RESPECT to YOUR MARRIAGE.

That's another matter, if you want to dissolve it...! Dips is sure gonna be happy


Episode 170 - 15th Jan 2013

I have to say, plot wise I am happy that CVs chose to catch any ride to have RK fix his insecurities by making peace with them...as in accepting the facts and letting the grudge go. So in that sense with this "test of love" start-revelation revisited, it has achieved:
  • RK reconciliation with his mother and his break with Bhatias at emotional level and expressed explicitly to his mother.
  • RK-Madhu proper Break with Dips
  • RK insecurities turning to sand rather being clay stuck to him 
  • Madhu, fulfilling her promise to Rads regarding RK, 
  • Padmini and Shamsher marriage and Trishna movie launching story started to have Balraj back.

Re RK-Dipali-Madhu Equation Fix
Pati Patni ki Privacy was the theme of the day. Lade, Mare, Jhagde, Test le, all jaayez between Pati and Patni...Teesre ka  beech me aane ka koi haque nahin. Madhu very clearly explained to Dipali that both the matters of loving and testing are completely between husband and wife and that Dipali is plain OUTSIDER and has no reason to talk in their matters. 

Plus Radhaji, also explained his son that his relationship is Bhagwan ka baanaya hua rishta with Madhu and so he should never endanger it by letting a third person come into it.So RK and Madhu's relationship gets a sanction from God with emphasis being on...Respectkaro uski, Maano usko aur sambhaalo.


Re RK-Radha Reconciliation drama
So today, while I was okay with RK calling Radhaji "Maa" and "sleeping in her lap" as Madhu promised that to Radhaji, dramatically it was far too contrived. 

My grudges with today's drama are:
How did RK know where to find Radha at that time ? It was plain TAPAKNA into scene.
Then we just have "Maa Main Thak gaya". Sorry! but it did not strike any chord within me. I mean I cried when Trishna melted and both sisters embraced each other. But seeing this maa-beta milan, it was like..."aaja beta scene jaldi khatam kar...phir tuhje Madhu ke paas bhi jaana hai"
Then again NO Complaints from the scene.
because, it seems MEIEJ CVs have 50-50 mind to use and drop Kuku-Sikky. Hence, they are in a rush for the reconciliation between Maa-beta, without much talk on their past, so that they can retire Kuku and Sikky just like that. And if need be called back again, then we have Radha's character, which was way too callously sidelined by CVs into not acting as the REAL MOTHER. Which mother actually when loving her husband's memories and when son actually treats her as everything will actually think that her son's father can be replaceable just like that. That's plain CLUNK.  And like Dipali Clunk, Radha clunk will go on as needed vehicles for the drama.  Soap world realities.

Concluding thoughts
Today, they kept it crisp between mother and son, that maa and godi mein sona like olden times. And nothing else was revealed that we do not know of or are curious. So it was not at all any development and just denouement towards some other drama coming up...and this is what keeps intriguing me. It is something that shall happen to Rishbala after Balraj drama. 


Kuku-Sikky-Radha-RK long scene - towards Reconcilation/Healing of Rishabh Track
The much needed amicable denouement for viewers with constructed scene where Kuku and Sikky get relegated to the status they should always been in Rishabh Kundra's life. Rishabh is now able to tell Kuku and Sikky that they are nothing in his life and that they are worse than furniture and his servants can throw them out of his life when he wants to. He is able to tell the duo right in front of his mother, when the duo act smart and try to instigate her against RK's decision of having his in-laws getting married. And further when  Kuku insults or rather tries to boss around his wife by throwing away the pooja ka prasaad ka thaal (that too Mohan Kundra's barsi waala). Rishabh not only protects his mother against the hurt generated by this gesture, he takes care that his mother is respected. So he tells Kuku to pick up the plate, thus showing his clout and power and how the duo are useless to everyone, including Radha Bhatia as now Rishabh Kundra, her son can take care of her. The duo understand the changed dynamics between mother and son and Kuku lifts the plate. RK sends them away saying its Sangeet Ceremony in the evening and they are not invited with heart, but still as they cannot be helped, they can enjoy. 

Rishabh-Radha New Dynamics Agreement scene
This follows with Rishabh-Radha scene. The son tells his mother, that she no longer needs to force the Bhatias relationship on him. And interestingly Radha is okay with all that. She gives a smile. This was the Best scene for me was Rishabh and Radha Scene though the Kuku-Sikky getting BBB'd was also awesome. Rishabh-Radha scene was best because it had the best emotional liberation through the Best Dialogue of the Day. 
"Maa, Main yeh samajh sakta hoon ki, aapne doosri shaadi kyon ki.Par ab mujhse, inhe izzat dene ke liye aur meri zindagi mein ek naam dene ke liye, Mat kahiega"
Through this RK has addressed his problem with Bhatias to his mother herself who gave him this pain. So he released all that pain with this reconciliation where he gets what he wants without losing his mother and not feeling burdened with false family respecting traditions. Its plain honesty, NON-NEGOTIABLE TRUTH for him, which his mother has to agree because they both have suffered for it for the last 17 years.


RK Insecurities Track and Revelation of Madhu's Extent of Love for RK

Madhu's fight for RK with Rishabh Insecurities - as understood through her acceptance of Rishabh's Insecurities in Episode 85 which ends Studio Night track and marks entry of Dips in their life;  and challenging/breaking RK insecurities stemming out of his past through episodes 169, 170, 171, 172 and 173 which ends Test of Love Track and Dips as a poisonous threat in their life.

By Episode 171, 172 and 173 - 16th to 18th Jan 2013
Originally posted by dramacrazy12
The flow of romance was much smoother today. RK was back in his element with filmy dialogues and Madhu was back to her besharam self. What I like about this couple is there is no fake coyness amongst them, they are very blatant about thier desires and attraction for each other.I find it very progressive that Madhu is just as open and enthusiastic about it  as RK. There are times when I find that she purposely provokes Rk into a more intimate situation and I think RK likes that aspect of her personality. In all loved that segment... can't wait to see how love confession will play out at Sangeet, after all RK is supposed to be king of romance. Mai ni Mai has a nostalgic feel to it and provides Madhu a chance to show off her dancing chops. What I found amusing is that RK is really planning to be Jogi by shunning all his materialistic belongings so even more appropriate. I do want RK to win ...I am interested in seeing what he wants from Madhu.
[SD]: Agree the bolded portion. We always feel that, the entire ED gang here. I love the CVs for giving that kind of heroine to us in this story. Her initial dream about RK when she has not even met him, somehow keeps validating the present Madhu and also the "Pareshaan Madhu"  in her imagination actually proudly professed to RK that she had dreamt about him. Later on the way she goes about winning Rishabh Kundra at all stages is just adorable. When in Aa zara dance or the Darmiyaan dance in the studio, the way she looks or the way she flirtatiously smiles is enough to make him own her...I just don't understand how the guy is even able to resist her. LOL  Though I understand her standpoint of going away with him very clearly, sometimes I wonder if am being wrong in also adding that she too wants to own him body and soul with undivided attention from him. Presently she does have to share him with his Superstar self, him as an organization of difficult and unwanted relationships over him. Madhu as this epitome of sensuous and sensible woman is growing at quite an admirable pace in my eyes. She can always put sensuality on the backseat if she has to deal with issues and problems of practical nature, but once they are dealt with, she goes about being sensual with her husband. Actually this is what I felt in Madhu-Radha scene today. Madhu is least emotional about Radha not telling her or RK not telling her...all she was emotional about was...how an important hurdle crossed that allows her grow closer to the man she loves. For her that revelation showed that yet another wall fell for her and now she gets to go closer to Rishabh. As much as we think RK has an agenda in going away, now it seems to be Madhu too has started stacking up her own agendas for this trip. Just that RK talks and Madhu hears and never tells RK or the viewers. She just believes in surprising us. LOL
I was watching now episode 85. 
God! those words in RK mansion's foyer area near the lift !!!  And after that the snaky woman makes her entrance to remind him every minute that he cannot fall in love with any other woman as they are just going to abandon him like her... how challenging it had been to her in claiming this man...she had to make him open up to the idea that she too can feel for him and if I think back assuming that she started falling for her husband alongside hating him more than that and if she knew about this already, then she had been way too patient with him and tearing apart whorl after whorl of his without letting him feel it and thus making him accept her love in equal regard. Now in restropect, I feel amazed that just as much RK was fighting Dips in his own way, so was Madhu helping him in totally ignoring her and their past relationship just concentrating on each other. It definitely gave a lot of balance to Rishabh Kundra as Madhu's ignoring of Dips stabilized RK into talking with her freely as if she feels nothing for him and thus giving Madhu all that access to deal with her husband. If Madhu had prioritized Dips like us viewers wanted us and given any value, Rishabh would have fortified his walls even more blocking all access to him. Intelligent Madhu!!!! Brilliant !!! For her his acceptance of her regard must have been the deepest challenge and win for her...may be that is why the being in love state is making her suddenly so light-headed and giddy that she just wants to fly away.


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