Okay...this song by Sting may apply for our Lose Control RK, that he was/is (minus the word VOW...or may be in his twisted world)
Aside I love the song for the music, video and the way it was played for the Police hubby of Teacher Penelope Ann Miller in the movie "The Gun in Betty Lou's HandBag"
Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you.
Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I'll be watching you.
Oh can't you see
You belong to me?
How my poor heart aches with every step you take.
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you.
Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace.
I dream at night, I can only see your face.
I look around but it's you I can't replace.
I feel so cold, and I long for your embrace.
I keep crying baby, baby please...
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you.
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you...
15th March
I am going to be hit by what I see in today's episode. So yes, I am bracing myself.
True Zoya.
First Phase around, Madhu was the one who nagged RK with her Police Case and taking you to Justice.
We viewers were like Madhu...think what you are doing. Just stay away from that man. There is no match between both of you.
BAM !!! Drunken Wedding Happens and Rishbala is born.
THUD!! Unwedding drama happens and Revenge is completed.
Second Phase around, RK is nagging Madhu like a jerk, whom she is trying her best to jerk away. What is he nagging her for. That she has not become the speck in his canvas, that she is the drop in the ocean, that she is turning out to be NOT an ordinary existence even in her ordinary dress and ordinary job and now her moving on. He wanted her to be lost in the crowds of millions of ordinary people around him. But She is not lost, she is working right in front of him as that ordinary person. And he is so greatly affected by that resilience.
Jealousy no Jealousy, Possessive, not Possessive...all I see is Flat Consistency in Rishabh Kundra's character...A self-made man revelling in his Power. He needs to be alone to have Peace and he is himself unable to see that indeed he is now alone and he can enjoy his Power.
Alas, His Pain is that His Punishment did not turn out Grand as he wanted it to be. He was seeing a RESILIENT Madhu who countered him always when he openly tormented her, he changed his strategy to strike her in Cold-blood, with shattering her trust and breaking her heart, and Yet he sees her RESILIENCE who is still able to stand up in dignity even in her loss.
This irks him to no end. He has not even resolved it, when that dream played out in his mind to confuse him and the viewers alike. That is an aberration for him, so surreal at this point...That is not just a dream projected by his subconscious, it is also something shown by his Unconscious. And Unconscious never matches with one's Conscious as it is that eye, that truth which the Conscious has never registered. The only way for them(Unconscious and Conscious) to communicate and pass on the information to each other is through the Sub-Conscious and hence the dream.
In these current state of affairs, I just wish RK to go back to his Library and not his Bar, as he clearly creates problems for himself like that sleepover with Madhu or hugging Dips, and both are equally bizarre acts for his reputation and those two women's reputation. Its time RK needs to be again the kind of person he was in June and July...stay away from Madhu...until he understands what his Unconscious is trying to tell him. He needs to go into more dreams, meditate...so why not show him entering his library, his painting room or his sculpting room for once...
God!!! Have the makers totally forgotten that he takes his anger out through his creative pursuits as well ? Yes, I always wanted to see RK's drama, but I say I want RK's drama not because he nags or runs after Madhu...because he makes sense to me more when he is with himself and his hobbies. There he can sculpt Madhu with his blood and all...it makes sense...but this kind of idiotic behaviour...is almost him running naked on the streets.
For me his revenge drama is complete like last last time around. When Shamsher Malik was the collateral damage and Madhu slapped him, he sat and devised a drama and finished revenge about it.
Now the collateral damage in his second revenge is Rishbala. So why is he not sitting and planning something and salvage Rishbala (like Shamsher last time) and continue his waging battle with Madhu and her metaphorical slap to his revenge plan (her ability to stand up in dignity and move on). I mean will the man show his sense now at least when all his monkey acts are wasted finally?!!!...I just hope so.
In the end for viewers...Salvaging what is almost dying is important. If Shamsher had a revival plan, same applies to Rishbala in dramatic terms...These days I am just keeping that patience to see coherence in that dramatic structure. If this is not found, then pretty much, in the name of entertainment and good TRPs, the makers of the drama can easily keep aside structural drama and sell what is selling.
Yes Zoya...we still need to keep our fingers crossed...as we cannot be sure at this point, how much of the FLAT consistency is going to be maintained. IMO, flat portrayal of RK is fine, but they need to mix the FLATNESS with him as the Artist that he is...and this is for the Viewers who like him for his liking to Acting, Motorbikes, Sculpting, Painting, his library (which they never showed us as him picking one book to read...the only reading he does is his scripts)...then only the ROUNDED Consistency of his Character will come.
Alas !! I can just hope.
But then...I cannot blame the makers of the drama...It was quite incredible to me that Rishabh Kundra actually could come up with that baffling proposal to save Shamsher and continue revenge game, which even Madhu could not refuse.
That incredulous proposal bowled my senses and I got hooked to the drama.
So I guess, now I need another incredulous BINDING proposal between Rishabh Kundra and Madhu that will be pact and it shall promise drama to come for me. I guess I am getting bored at the two people UNHINGED for so long.
Because that they are a couple that should have NOT paired is PERIOD information for me. I know that. No one needs to tell me otherwise.
But because I signed up for seeing Devil's Drama, I need to those honorary pacts to ensure that deals will be carried out with purpose. So where is my beef ?!!!
15th March Dramatic construct-wise - RK hits the low. Takes the slap from his mother and even Madhu says she is disgusted at herself for once ever loving him.
Originally posted by zorica
SD : I like this one...The troubled Man with no reason whatsoever. Or is the reason so important to him.
Originally posted by _charu_
Shri, I had a question in mind..Is RK really jealous ? is it love or his ego who cannot accept that therez another man in Madhu's life? bec. in his dreams, he tried to tell us that he cannot lose Madhu to anyone else as she's his biwi...but what Puja said confused me n I felt she's right..he has a problem accepting that she has moved on while he's burning in hell ! and like u said, her resilience is not allowing him to revel in happiness of completion of revenge...i want to ask Bittuji's question here..what is there b/w the 2 of them and why wud they want to get back to each other now? bec. with passing time, their relationship is hitting a new low..and when Madhu said that she's disgusted that she ever fell in love with him, wherez the hope that she can love him again. until n unless he changes completely...turns into another Mukund
Responded by Myself
RK could not share his mother. And now he cannot lose Madhu. I don't see CONVINCED jealousy though the makers of the drama call it jealousy track. I see only an RK who is possessive about Madhu. When did he ever let her alone in previous 6 months for us to see his possessiveness like this. If you see Madhu and Radhaji are explaining the same...what haque, which rights of possession he is talking about and he shows his sorry face, though he cannot agree to it. He is like that only- control freak. The curiosity kills him because he has to know Madhu and her needs, just like RK kept his mother close and knew her needs. He takes care of them, making it difficult for them to leave him and he keeps sucking their love and hurts them...I am so liking for the slaps he is getting post revenge drama...one from Madhu for trying to show his concern and he had to let her go even as it hurt him and now Radhaji's slap ...long due slap to Rishu the kid for his over possessiveness. Great...I told you.. he needed lessons from Mommy. So I think it will be good for him with the lessons he learnt today.
As for the Love story...they are pure opposites. So consciously they repel each other and unconsciously they attract each other. RK is attracted to Madhu and Madhu is affected by his attraction. Period. This is the unrealized reality for them. Consciously they always act their mosquito and roach repellent drama, but always playing the game. The world shall soon tell them to keep themselves out of their drama.
RK the Charmer
Originally posted by dramacrazy12
From where I stand while everything Radha said was correct and justified but it was an over-reaction given the circumstances. However I feel for her since she is frustated with her obstinate son and today her anger and frustation runneth over. Why did she have to ask forgiveness from Madhu? How exactly is RK inhumane in today's context? Yes...madhu did save RK's life but RK returned the favor in full in Ballu incident...why does everyone seem to forget that? Why did RK not ask Radha to question Madhu and see if anything he said was untrue about her spending nights outside and lying to everyone? What gave Madhu right to act superior and righteous when she was in wrong? Did I feel wrong when it seemed that Madhu was initially saddened but then gloated at RK's plight?
Today I felt an odd sense of disgust for Madhu ...something I have always felt for RK. I have always felt that RK should face the consequences of his actions and learn to value Madhu. Strangely today I felt the same for Madhu...I wanted RK to walk away from her and leave her with her own stupidity so that she can suffer the consequences of getting entangled with a gangster and understand what RK was trying to tell her in his own crude way.
Responded by myself
@Bold and underlined
Pooja, precisely the reasons why
- RK did not think of Radhaji in his room, he did not ponder on any of his mom's words.
- Why he thought about the mysterious man in Madhu's life
- Why he thought about Madhu's words that she is disgusted at herself for loving him once"
Today, infact we got our OLD RK back...thinking objectively.
Emotionally, I have already explained, why he lets people run over him when he is not wrong. Its strange kind of love this man has for them...he mocks them for loving him for wrong reasons and he takes their hits for showing their anger on immediate wrong reasons but underlying right reasons. This effectively ricochets back onto the people about their thoughts about Rishabh Kundra, that when they realize what he said, makes them understand him more and wants them to love him more. Think about it...that's why he is charming, He is always a lot of steps ahead than rest of the people, though he looks so brash with his acts. If Madhu picks her people, even RK picks his people and calls them a family. Effectively it was good of him to take the hit because underlying truths are visible to him and he needs to build bridges that he burnt.
I tell you he is one bored guy. Needs drama in his life all the time. Give him a tough Producer, tough Director and Tough Co-Actress. All have become too mild with him. Gosh!!! why don't show a competitor to his superstar status. He is too bored and he is boring us with ruckus and yet spewing with gripping entertainment. Unbelievable, I tell you.
16th March 2013 - @ bold above, yes, he showed sense by stopping his mom and promising her that he will apologize to Madhu.....And revival of Rishbala is started
As Radhaji gets ready to leave the house, RK stops her from leaving, through stubborn tearing of the flight tickets, accepting the fact that he will be all alone if she leaves and also the fact that she wants him to apologize to Madhu for his bad behaviour to her and that he is ready to do it.
Wicked people!!!! Wicked Wicked Wicked !!!! RK was going to do his "Maafi Maangna" with Madhu. Was it necessary to drag the scene so long that he gets interrupted and checks Sultan's drama and once again starts a Chillar drama ?!!! Anyways, the titans keep on matching themselves. Madhu vowed to her mother, she is never going to back-out until RK learns to bend and bow his head. RK started on that trip but CVs' Samay (Time Machine) reminded them, that it is not yet the time.
Finally the baccha is now a proper baccha to his Mommy. [Applause]. He acts like a boy. Good for you Rishabh Kundra. Becoming healthy. Today Radhaji for once; had her two sons, sane with brain at the same time. She is truly blessed today.LOL
Now I want to see RK bonding with Sikky and they make a team together. RK needs to grow his own party. I am serious and not joking. This is how he can start getting normal. First bridging with Mom. This is done now. They both are okay now...she can shout at him and he will listen to her. Naraazgi-Zid-Manaana...It was good to watch the mother and son together and he humbly accept that he will be alone without her. As usual, he does not mince words with his mother, prefers to keep them straight.
RK's bridging with Sikky, with whom he has to share his mother, soon has to follow. I hope this is why Sikky will be more on sets and RK will be forced to respect him for the man he is...I understand Sikky has done lot of bad things to RK in the past and even now he is being the sly guy and taking his wife's help, but it does have a dramatic purpose I believe. It is always better for a stronger person to learn to forgive weakness of others and let the grudges go. I want this for RK and through this I want Sikky growing away from Kukkji and Dips who just stunt his brain for their own use. Hope CVs listen to this. Even Sikky can improve. He is not that bad guy...we have all seen that...
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RK - The Charmer - By pnars
Don't throw chappals at me, but I've turned the corner on RK. I realize he's been a demon and tyrant and betrayed Madhu (and by extension all of us), but I just can't help it. VD's portrayal of RK is just that good! Today, he didn't bend, he didn't change, his innate bombast and mocking tone remained intact, but look how he pataoed Radhaji and brought tears to her eyes. You just can't help loving this kameena.
And then he has that eye lock with a teary Madhu...
We got the passionate Rishbala gesture we all were thirsting for!!!
And Sultan just had to wreck the scene didn't he?! Madhu's going to realize the soup she's put herself and RK in now!
In honorable mentions today, Sikky, who's growing brains by the day and Poor Mangesh!!
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Originally posted by zorica
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Ananya05: What a poignant scene this was ! Much needed respite for Rishbala shippers. Hope restored. Thank you for the wallpaper Zorica.
CVs showing that Rishbala relationship is not all lost.
Rishbala moment- RK next day at the studio is ready to apologize to Madhu. First she is not ready to give him her time and when he finally pins her against the wall, she turns her face away. He tells her she need not talk to him and just needs to listen to her, but needs to look at him. He notices Madhu shedding tears, turns her face towards him and is moved at her closed eyes. As she opens her eyes, he tries to wipe her tears, Bittuji interrupts them. Why ? Because, just around that time outside the studio, Sultan has come with his men to personally break the windshield of RK's car to punish him for threatening his kid that he shall not be able to walk. He leaves a threatening letter to RK. RK losing his temper again...
By Soundarya22
Now Madhu is faking 'hate'..(we always knew that). The change of tone in RK's voice still has the power to bring her to tears. Poor girl...this is what she needs to get over. And RK is faking 'whatever' (God knows what)...because her closeness, her tears automatically softens him. He forgets what he has to say, proceeds to wipe her tears.
Originally posted by Angeena
But why was Madhu crying?
Responded by Myself
Viewers and RK were saying..."Kaun Hai Yeh Ladki ?" We all saw a changed Madhu since 6th March.
So they showed the tears...to tell us and RK, that she is still our Glycerine...and not to worry.
Originally posted by Soundarya22
RK corners Madhu, she averts her eyes. He turns her face, discovers she has tears, he gets affected, both of them get into a deep eyelock, her eyes teary but accusing. RK is about to wipe her tears, when Bittuji comes running in. SO whats new!!?? We cannot even have one Rishbala scene in peace.
RK corners Madhu, she averts her eyes. He turns her face, discovers she has tears, he gets affected, both of them get into a deep eyelock, her eyes teary but accusing. RK is about to wipe her tears, when Bittuji comes running in. SO whats new!!?? We cannot even have one Rishbala scene in peace.
Responded by Myself
And Bittuji is back in business to INTERRUPT. Seems CVs the teachers just decided to rap us on our heads and reminding us what we have forgotten. RK this time is yelling at Bittuji for disturbing him.
Originally posted by zorica
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Originally posted by zorica
SD: My dedication for these two posters.
<<<MAMMA MIA from ABBA>>>
Just one look and I can hear a bell ring
One more look and I forget everything, w-o-o-o-oh
Mamma mia, here I go again
My my, how can I resist you?
Mamma mia, now I really know,
My my, I could never let you go.
***(Applicable for both RK and Madhu)
Full lyrics
I've been cheated by you since I don't know when
So I made up my mind, it must come to an end
Look at me now, will I ever learn?
I don't know how but I suddenly lose control
There's a fire within my soul
Just one look and I can hear a bell ring
One more look and I forget everything, w-o-o-o-oh
Mamma mia, here I go again
My my, how can I resist you?
Mamma mia, does it show again?
My my, just how much I've missed you
Yes, I've been brokenhearted
Blue since the day we parted
Why, why did I ever let you go?
Mamma mia, now I really know,
My my, I could never let you go.
I've been angry and sad about things that you do
I can't count all the times that I've told you we're through
And when you go, when you slam the door
I think you know that you won't be away too long
You know that I'm not that strong.
Just one look and I can hear a bell ring
One more look and I forget everything, w-o-o-o-oh
Mamma mia, here I go again
My my, how can I resist you?
Mamma mia, does it show again?
My my, just how much I've missed you
Yes, I've been brokenhearted
Blue since the day we parted
Why, why did I ever let you go?
Mamma mia, even if I say
Bye bye, leave me now or never
mamma mia, it's a game we play
Bye bye doesn't mean forever
Mamma mia, here I go again
My my, how can I resist you?
Mamma mia, does it show again?
My my, just how much I've missed you
Yes, I've been brokenhearted
Blue since the day we parted
Why, why did I ever let you go
Mamma mia, now I really know
My my, I could never let you go
21st March 2013
21st March 2013
Originally posted by Nishi.Singh
i m still not able to understand his inside pain and those words he said before departing to Radha ji - "lagta hai bhagwaan ne RK ko duniya mein isi liye bheja ki jaise hi wo aaye, usko duniya bhar saare dard de do"...something like this he said...can u throw a light on this Shri?
Nishi,
At this point of the story, that was the one of the last dialogue uttered by Rishabh Kundra. And after he left Bittuji asked Radhaji on what happened to Chief and why all those incoherent dialogues...then Radhaji explains...that he is hurt ...as in both Madhu and RK are in hurt state where they are taking each other's poison out.
Then if we drill down a bit...on why Rishabh Kundra was in this disturbed state of mind that his dialogues were NOT BANG-ON, but were confused and incoherent... [Honestly, I couldn't even understand what he said. My response was like Bittuji...
] it clearly stemmed from the information he received in the Studio...when Madhu told him about Sultan and how she knows him.
] it clearly stemmed from the information he received in the Studio...when Madhu told him about Sultan and how she knows him.
I will have to provide a link for you to read...as that is how I can understand him...because this guy never blurts out his inner feelings,...but in his breaking state, he showed his inner feelings...about him surrounded in pain. This was what upset him...the parting words from Madhu that others are not sadist like him and that dawning realisation for Rishabh Kundra hit him...
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You know when Madhu said Insecurities yesterday, for some time, I was thinking...why did she say that...Then I realized ...Him against Sultan. In his dream...he was concerned for Madhu. He runs after her asking is she okay. And when she doesn't answer and sees her drawn to the two-eyed man, he senses danger and puts himself in between...the man draws a dagger and tries to go for kiling him. So basically RK imagined Madhu to be in danger, the two-eyed man to be a bad man and him getting killed if tried to go in between them. But later when Madhu tells him that he is Sultan and she protected his kid and nothing is going in between them...RK just recollects his drunken state of previous night and remembers the Sultan...connects the two...He is crestfallen, shame-faced that he suspected that man to be a bad man...that he shall not stop to kill him...Infact the opposite happened...the man saved him. His insecurity was if Madhu was in danger...but nope she was saving someone...and in turn that person was saving him...and in all of their ALTRUISTIC gestures, HE himself looked the only SOUL who needed to be saved. How bad was that for him...a REALITY hit hard...He was supposed to be inflicting pain on all and enjoy watching others in pain...and yet he was saved and his Madhu had emerged the stronger of the two, who he thought needed to be concerned about. And what was he insecure about...losing his right over Madhu...his right to hurt her, no one else can hurt her...BUT now what is the reality...She is not his Madhu...He lost that right and moreover...who would want to hurt her except him...so why was he getting so insecure about...It was pathetic situation for himself...and it was PATHOS all over with that realization that ...even his insecurity was about losing his right as a sadist.
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He is the perceived sadist to Madhu and it is true too...He likes to hurt her. Question is why does he want to hurt her ? Which again hurts him only. Boomerang...Ricochet...and Why did he banish the woman he loves so much, who meant happiness to him, why did he deny himself the happiness...hence his complaint to God for the way he created him...
I would advise you not to take it as final or anything...but I tried to be logical through the developement of the scene/his state of mind since he dreamt about the two eyed man. But we should keep all of this context in our mind, because, once Rishabh Kundra comes back strong[IF I can hope for that !!!], we will never know why he uttered that dialogue.
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