Episode 147 Discussion: 17th Dec 2012

Bamboozled: Man Proposes God Disposes

Episode 147  Discussion: 17th Dec 2012

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Episode Events 

• Continuing from Friday, RK is angry and upset that Madhu cannot surrender to him, like he hoped her to do. He doesn't want to stay a minute in that farmhouse as all charm is lost. He drops Madhu at RK Mansion, refusing to listen to the reason for her hesitation in accepting him. As she trips after getting out of the car, RK holds her from falling down in all care. Madhu at this moment realizes how much RK loves her, to the limits...like he hates her like he loves her. Understanding where his hurt is coming from, Madhu resolves that she cannot not let RK lose her; nor she would let herself lose RK.
• Rads chances upon to see Madhu enter the house and asks all her enquiries of what transpired between Rishbala. Madhu tells partial truth saying all is well and that RK confessed his love for her. Rads is happy and reminds Madhu that she needs to return Rishabh to her. Madhu is apprehensive.
• Dipali is all upset to find out that RK and Madhu have not split and are still together. 
• Madhu recalling all that went on in the night, gets scared that probably Trishna's curse has started working on them and hence the misunderstanding between her and RK. She calls her mother Padmini and asks for reassurance that nothing will happen, which her mother gives all in full.
• Back in studio where RK is supposed to shoot...it is shown that RK is all in his depressed mood. He is drinking whiskey openly, dousing himself in drink, is forgetting his dialogues, sees Madhu everywhere..basically frustrating his crew and his female co-star with his ineffectiveness and waste of time. He is openly talking about Madhu and her deceit (as perceived by RK). Finally in frustration when RK calls pack-up, and as he is walking to his vanity van, he sees Trishna talking to the casting manager. 
• Sensing disappointment there he butts in trying to find out what's going on. Trishna, in anger blurts out how Padmini and Shamsher no longer live together, how Madhu and Shamsher no longer talk to each other and finally how her career is all destroyed on account of him. In return for all this ruin, she curses him never to have happiness like she cursed Madhu. RK realizes something

Episode Take

What the hell ?????

Can it get any more contrived ? What was the point of creating a misunderstanding for one episode and fretting the viewers for the entire weekend ? 

Dipali creates misunderstanding and Trishna destroys it.

Dipali - Lesson for you --> Man Proposes, God Disposes

Viewers - Lesson for you --> Beggars cannot be choosers

Trishna chooses to curse RK instead of telling him what happened and may be better her chances at getting the acting opportunity

Trishna - Lesson for me - Can't make heads or Tails of you.

Hell!!! Who wrote this Test of Love Track ? Can I take him to the gallows ?

Bamboozled: Man Proposes God Disposes

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Continuing from Friday...after two days of living in pain at shock of rejection felt by RK and consternation felt by Madhu when RK throws  his Test of Love surprise on Madhu. It was a great pain by viewers just like RK and Madhu who were in throes of pain. And who planted the seed of this Test of Love idea in RK's mind. It was Dipali.

As of Friday...everything was like Man proposes. Dipali planning something, RK executing something in hope of achieving something, Madhu wanting to plan something, viewers justifying everything for Rishbala, feeling their pain, having sleepless nights and yet trying to find something positive from the Friday episode. 

Come Monday, for everyone it became God disposes.

Dipali who wanted misunderstanding between RK and Madhubala, ends up misunderstanding herself that everything is hunky dory between them.

RK who immersed himself in pain at his perceived rejection, his test of love, which was more about...no one can love me as he is unlucky to get that...is rudely shaken by Trishna, who rather in acid tone, reprimands RK not to show false concern and that after ruining the Chaudhry-Malik lives and that she curses him just like she curses his wife never to be happy. RK suddenly is jolted out of self-pity to self-defence.

Madhu who recalled her promise to Radhaji to unite Rishabh with her; and withdrew promise of togetherness to wilderness and oblivion; from RK...suddenly finds that it is quite a daunting task to achieve now ...for how can she have her husband united with his mother, when husband showed from every incho of his body, he wants to leave the world along with Madhu. And surprising Madhu is consternated that Radhaji actually is impatient about her getting back her son one fine day with Madhu's help.

Viewers who expected Dipali smirking in sweet victory, had something else planned for them by show creatives and viewers watched the outcome in total daze...asking what the hell just happened ??

I just wonder..how much does Man plan when God has other plans for him.

Must say the compelling toppling of plans for Dipali by Rishbala and for RK by Trishna today. And we the viewers totally left bamboozled by the CVs. 

Responded by colorsluv

Ur last line cracked me up RFOL!! & I agree with u.

The way CV's r planning the show some day they definitely give us heart attack.

I still cant able 2 digest yesterday episode.

Responded by Shahisti

Awesome post.

Well must say CV's has really surprised the viewers, aftre a torturous weekend.

It felt like a relief and just kind of a rest got for our brains after continuously thinking who is wrong, why RK has to take the test when Madhu is upset, Why RK listens to Dipali, Why Madhu didn't say eys first and explain later, Why this why that and so many...

By Pippa

The sudden turnabout that we witnessed last night has to be a first in Indian soap history. The usual thing to do is to stretch it like chewing gum till the viewers can't take it anymore.

As a result, most of the veterans of Indian soaps have become habituated to view a track that will take it's own sweet time to work itself out.

What happened last night to MEIEJ has left all its viewers foxed. I don't know if the route taken by the cvs is a good one or not but I believe they meant to keep us confused. I don't think it's hurry burry on their part...they are up to something and keeping us on our toes is one of them.

There's been a lot of stuff about RK's expression in the precap and as many views about it. I felt that he had a calculating expression as though he was up to something and that what he said to Madhu isn't what he actually meant. Was it a dream or for real?

After thinking about it all, I admit that I like and respect this PH after all. They don't take their viewers for granted and keep throwing googlies at us and keep us guessing. It's even awakened an immune-to-tv-shows individual like me to sit up and take some interest and that happens very rarely!

By soapbubble

I was pretty happy to be bamboozled, as you say. 

If the creative team is talented, confident and willing to be positive on the whole, quite happy to hear the story they have for us, rather than run on ghisa pita tracks and our expectations.

They turned that Dipali thing on its head - let her succeed but she didn't experience the success so same difference! And now they're pitting their lead couple against the world. sounds good to me :)

By Aswathy

Awesome post!Haha!Loved how you connected that proverb to the show's track!..Would love to get bamboozled like this in future too..! 

TRISHNA

Originally posted by Adhyaay-Chapter

My one cent worth. This is in the context of Trishna asking Malik to request RK to resurrect her career (I read some posts about her sudden outburst at RK when she had herself wanted him to give her a role). In my opinion, she did not really mean it. She used that as a ploy to show Malik that Madhu means more to him that she ever did.

Malik had come to her to reason with her about her bitterness towards Madhu. So, she counters him first with "Bhool jaiye jo bhi maine Madhu ke liye kaha. Kya aap RK se baat karke mujhe ek achcha role dilwa sakte hain?" To which his response is one of vacillation..."Main kaise?" That was what she wanted to hear. As far as she is concerned, he is the father who is ready to kill for Madhu, but not even put in a word for her sake.She had proved her to point.

That's what I think. Today's epi was bleh. Less said the better. 

AC,

In Trishna and writer's defence, I had one more thing to say.

I always thought this ...RK after his revenge game ended in his own capacity, he was trying to fix things what he damaged. So he was treating Padmini with respect (no more insulting her for staying with Shamsher), he got the machines for Shamsher and had him treated in express fashion, he started considering  Madhu as his wife. But what about Trishna ? He forgot about Trishna. Then I felt, may be she is so insignificant that RK outrightly helping her will raise brows everywhere as that would be nepotistic favour.

But today, when Trishna lashed out that you destroyed my career, her small or big time skills she had...at least RK got to know that there was this unfinished chapter which he never tended to. So as justice...RK should also rectify whatever bad he may have caused to Trishna.

This I would have given credit, had the misunderstanding been resolved after few episodes and not so soon...or if Dipali based test of love did not happen ...but Trishna's curse would have been part of the storyline as Trishna -RK needed a closure there.

Originally posted by himbin

@dramacrazy12

 ...Well written and so true. Madhu got a complete picture of her husband...his love,his needs and his insecurities...even RK seems to realize that he is being very impulsive with his fear of loosing and they both know who their well wishers are and who are not... Hope they both work things out...once again nice post.Loved reading it...

Dramacrazy,

I agree with Hima. You have written it all nice...the transition to next phase of the Rishbala story.

Passion is again back into Rishbala story. All this days, it was Ishq. Now that RK exposed himself to Madhu, he is now all set on path of self-destruction if any rejection now sets in. He was already suicidal or rather wished for death in Ganesha track. So all these days, he was okay subconsciously as Madhu was taking care of him post his surgery and then he was taking care of her because of Shamsher being the killer drama. Karva Chauth track opened upto acknowledgment of their relationship.

If I forciblly remove from my mind that Dipali ever forced him, then it was his honesty which made him look into his insecurities and check with Madhu in his unconventional style how far she can go with him. Partly he hoped that she would surrender to him, like he was on the verge of doing it. So that confession happened. And it resulted in his surrender, but not her and I felt as if he set himself on self-destructive path.  

I was reminded of his sculpting days and his drinking days where he had today's kind of morbid temper. Just that the creatives needed to justify this by showing to viewers :

1) by showing repeatedly during all these days that he was able to sleep without drinks because, in the night in between he was waking up to see Madhu and then going back to sleep. 

2) They should have shown him waking up to see in apprehension and not in smiling manner...though he could always have smiled when Madhu was looking at him...

And forcibly forgetting that Madhu told what happened to Radunce, I will give credit to Madhu, that she realized before she entered the house, what upset RK and her junooni protection took hold of her.

Was just telling Zoya, at this rate of deterioration or rather erosion of confidence in RK as he opened his heart...We will need Madhu more and more to hug him, hold him in order to show him "touch"...the tangible physical proximity expressed, proven...it would be touch therapy.

Will then VD and DD be okay to do these intimate scenes...well not kisses, hugs should be fine...

yes, Savz, jokes apart, the story just entered ADULT Phase...with depression symptoms, passionate feeling and therefore need for sensual expression, drinking spree etc. Now all TRP giving women may feel afraid and call him psycho or villain like previously.

ETA: Don't they get Cymbalta in India ?