Wednesday, April 3, 2013

Dance forms and Rishbala Signature Pose

3rd April 2013 - Holi Dance


Rishbala Signature Pose

Originally posted by _charu_


it'll be easy to get a reply if you think that they are ONE..not two separate entities...

Koyel, when you posted a pic. of their famous pose on saturday, RK holding Madhu, i thought i'
ll compile them at diff. points of the story..

a new beginning.. to revenge. 
a new beginning.. to prem game
a new beginning..to RK's love, which even he cud not realize. why was he dreaming of her?
a new beginning ...to RK's obsession which he accepted
a new beginning ..to RK's love, junoon, obsession and passion which Madhu and this world has to see..LOL



Posted by Myself
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Originally posted by Escape.My.Love.



hands down the best moment. they are so meshed into each other. indulged in each other.as if theyll remain like that as one for eternity. it was so beautiful <3

Thank you EML. 

This step flows from contemporary dance.

Its disharmonious that contemporary dance was chosen by Rishbala for dancing in Chawl-yard with Holi as background. The conservative and traditional person in me would have preferred a dance form native to Holi festival.  When its jarring like this, what did I feel as the viewer. The contemporary form stamped on my mind that the two people who are dancing away in all passion are totally oblivious to the world around them.  There was an abstract element involved in their dance, as if they were supposed to forget the background and their current situation and just douse themselves in their passions.  

But here is my dilemma. I was playing Holi all enjoying the festivity. Now where do I go ? when these people decided to siege the stage (chawlyard) and go on with their dance ? I am a reluctant viewer here...Do I have to stand or retreat ? What happens to my Holi ? And what is Sultan doing there ? Watching their passionate dance and feeling unpleasant about it, making the viewer in me cringe more. Am I being a voyeur ?!!!

Then in between Bollywood type of steps are thrown for the contemporary dance...breaking one of them from the trance, showing me what a guilty pleasure it seemed to one of them.

Agree contemporary dance is most free form with all creative freedom and nothing to be analysed there and just the see the emotions expressed.  And agree Rishbala dance gave all that access to them.

Why I am reacting ? Holi background ?!!!  ==> okay I get it two passionate souls, connected in passion and not connected in love.  And what is Holi about? Holi is about Love. 

Like I said yesterday - they are not connected in love, but they are very much two separate islands of love and passion pulling them towards each other.
  • Rishabh Kundra - I have to claim her back. I shall be the one to color her in passion with my love.
  • Madhu - I have color of love back in my life. I have shut him out of my life who gives me pain and I have welcomed this boy into my life who is now my joy.

Against this perspective...am I too imprisoned or narrow-minded. What is that I need to liberate myself to ? How I am to allay myself from being the realist ? 
  • If I liberate myself - then I have to accept  that  "Rishabh Kundra was right. Madhubala Malik was right. - they are connected in passion."
  • If I am narrow-minded/caged then I have to accept that  "Rishabh Kundra was wrong. Madhubala Malik was wrong. - it was not the time, not the place, not the occasion. They have far too many barriers to even think of loving each other"
  • If I am realistic, then I have to accept that - "Sultan was right. Sultan was wrong. - He was right to leave, wrong to watch." He could have stayed and fought RK if it was so hurting him to watch Madhubala Malik with her husband. Else he could have turned away his gaze if he felt disgusted by the couple's close dance.

There did I now explain, why my review was like that ? 

It was quite adult in making that PDA -contemporary dance - the free movements, the independence between dance and music, the dance to be just danced and not analyzed- during a Holi sequence. 

I need to see harmony and purpose in everything.The dance caused disharmony to me in all poetic sense and I took my pain and irrationality of it in anger and disgust.

And as always ST/CVs revel in drama that creates disgust to drive their point.

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I am terribly confused by what kind of dance form they go for soap dance choreography.
Is it ballroom dance ?
Is it Indian contemporary dance ?

Indian Contemporary gives flexibility as it is free form, can be matched with any music and go for any mix.

VMs to compare and see the dance and match it against today's dance and see how far the dance form was appropriate to used over Holi.


Dance from GHSP - Maan& Geet's first passionate dance- Balltoom setting - Check the lift




Same kind of dance form on MEIEJ - Sep Party Night - MAdhu and RK - Party setting with open floor - Check the lifts

(cannot get you better video as Viacom blocks all colors videos in US.




And compare it with today's dance - Check the lift

Checked with sweetdear

Sweetdear,
Page 14 I've  posted videos. And my question is ...was there a continuity in the choreography for episode 236 (aired on 3rd Apr) ? Did you see harmony between the emotion, dance, dance form and the platform ?
I got the feeling that the point of choreography was to invoke disgust rather than elation.
Thanks in advance.

Responded by sweetdear
Hi Shri, feel so honored hereEmbarrassed with your invite.thank you very much.

Let me pen down what I felt looking at the dance here...purely my povEmbarrassed,

Dance is primarily has to be the expression of the inner most feelings. As a choreographer(not full time though LOL), I do  feel dance is the best way to express when everything else fails, it also helps to portray the equation between two individuals.
I read your post in  which u said you were not happy with the dance form. But being a dancer, I have realized, in any of our Indian dance forms  like for ex, Bharatanatyam,Kathak,folk etc..there can not be much intimacy shown..whereas contemporary dance form allows two people to get close and in the process won't invoke any disgust.

I agree Lord Shiv-Parvathi are known to express their passion through dance and they have always shown dancing in Bharath Natyam. Whereas Krishna, Radha and Gopikas'  danced in Kathak.But the thing is not everybody can emote so well and Bharatanatyam, Kathak( Indian classical form)requires and it requires many years of rigorous practice and dedication. Hence the current set of choreographers tend to take the easy and explainable way to show two people close n intimate by choosing contemporary dance form. 


Per the videos:-

Geet:-
In this video, Maan is the lead.Geet is just the follower..she is least resistant here due to the reasons for the dance. She is just giving in to his passion. Whereas the song portrays Maan's state of mind.it says Kurbaan hua ...every word in the lyrics talks about him..it's his self talk reg his new emotions about this girl. Hence all the twists,twirls,pulling..and he admits at one point that she is now subconsciously has become his everything as he has lost himself to her..hence the LIFT @ Kurbaan hua.


Madhubala:
The dance here shows the conflict of both the individuals..and kudos for selecting such an apt song...the lyrics suited so well to this situation of two stubborn yet giving in couple.

If we observe the dance, Initially Madhu resists his pull...couple of times..and that's when he smirks..cos he knows she might initially resist but for sure she is going to end up in his arms..and thats when he pulls her to their signature pose. The smirk in his dance should be treated as his confidence that in the end she belongs in his arms and he will make sure she is there where she belongs. 
Whereas Madhu's dance comprises of her anger at herself for giving in to him so easily,her hurt due to their past..hence she doesn't smile. and also at the same time she is very clear that this is where she belongs though with little disgust at him for making this a PDA..hence she continues to dance and doesnt jerk him away!!she actually does not want to give in but so helpless she can't stop herself from doing it and hopelessly tries to get away from him at every opportunity only to end up being so close to him. This is when he pulls,twists...This is when they describe her as morni..and him as mor as he is dancing for her..to woo her!! Raag n Raagini as they are inseparable!!

Jaise Chaand Ke Sang Chandani
Jaise Raag Ke Sang Hai Ragini
Jaise Bhari Basant Mein Morani
Piya Ke Rang Rang Deeni Odhani 

Now the LIFT... It's basically for both of them..as they both longing to be with each other in each other's embraces...
The beauty of the lift here being..their inner most intimate desire of submitting to each other unconditionally ..complete SAMARPAN!!! And hence the lyrics...
Tujhe Pehanu Odhu Bichaau Main
Tujhe Bhar Ke Saanson Mein Gaau Main
During the lift, they both feel at bliss hence they close their eyes involuntarily to relish the heavenly moment.

There is a moment where he twirls her so harshly that she stumbles..this is his punishment for her as she didn't give him his haq(right) of being the first one to apply her the color..and he clearly has the haq to even hurt her whenever she snatches his haq from him but at the end he will be always be the ONE who will CATCH her when she is about to fall to save her n will be her savior forever!!!

One difference between both the dances is the attire...
In Geet..they are in party wear...whereas in MB they are in traditional wear to make them suit for the occasion in both the instances.


 I have tried my best ShriEmbarrassed... Please lemme know what you all have to saySmile. Hope I did justice here while explaining on both the dances.


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