Tuesday, April 2, 2013

Episode 235 Discussion: 2nd April 2013

Holika Dahan and Holi, like the rise of the Phoenix. Rise of Hope, Passion, Joy. Its Rangon ki (Color) Holi for some and Khoon ki (Blood) Holi for others.

Events of the Episode

Night of Holika-Dahan and Morning of Holi
  • Sultan - I can bring the colors back into my life. I see hope through her for my love.
In the night Sultan remember Madhu with dripping hair and Madhu who is advising him to bring colors into his life as well and not just for Aryan. Sultan feels all the hope for his Aryan through Madhu to have a normal life. He likes the picture of Madhu and Aryan together and has some feelings for her. In the morning, he allows Aryan to play Holi and brings for him colors and pichkaari and balloons. He also has the teeka from Madhu's color thali.
  • Rishabh Kundra - I have to claim her back. I shall be the one to color her in passion with my love.
He has returned from US. His mother greets him, is happy that after many years, they get to celebrate Holi together. He categorically tells her, that he won't celebrate Holi and goes to his room. Bittuji follows him to his room and RK asks him to give the information he is trying to hide about Madhu and the man. Bittuji is reluctant to tell him anything about Madhu and Sultan. Dipali who had come to give him the kurta for Holi, hears Bittuji evading the topic and she goes ahead and narrates everything to RK about Madhu coming with a kid to the set, kid getting injured and Kid's father coming to the set and intimidating people around the set with goon acts. RK sends away B and later in the night pieces everything together as to how his unwedding with Madhu has led her to go away from him and attach herself to the kid and how through the kid, she is getting closer to Sultan. In the morning, when his mother comes to plead him to have a tika from her in the name of Holi shagun, she is surprised that he is all ready in white kurta and blue stole. She is happy only to get concerned when he tells her that he is going to chawl to play his first Holi with Madhu. His mother allows him to leave in the hope that by going there he will see the reality of whether Madhu moved on or not, coz if she moved on, he has to move on as well, if she has not, then he has to realize how he has hurt her and how it was immoral and unethical of him to do so. RK is driving to Chawl with the sole intention to claim Madhu back into his life.
  • Madhu - I have color of love back in my life. I have shut him out of my life who gives me pain and I have welcomed this boy into my life who is now my joy.
In the night Madhu looks at RK's poster in the Chawl compound and closes the window as if to shut him off her life as his sight gives her unbearable pain. In the morning, all adorned, she greets Aryan and invites him to play Holi. Aryan is happy to play Holi with her and Madhu is elated and thanks Sultan for allowing Aryan to play Holi.
  • Bhujang - Lets play Blood Holi. Let me end Sultan. 
Bhujang and his men do pooja and get ready with pistols to come and attack Sultan in between Holi festivites at the chawl.


Episode Reviews - Myself in Blue
It was an interesting episode and after a long long time, without any disgust for any character.

Bittuji
I was highly disappointed in Bittuji. His state of mind was like the Viewer, who thinks Rishabh Kundra is nothing but trouble for Madhu and had a chapped apprehension for all kinds; for his Chief and Bhabhiji's relationship. Why does Bittuji think his Chief should not know anything about what his Bhabhiji is upto beyond his chief's back. Because Bittuji is upset emotionally at what he saw his Bhabhiji getting involved with though he knows rationally that his Bhabhiji can never be wrong. His distraught face is so giving away to Rishabh Kundra, that he realizes there's more than to what he thinks of Madhu moving on. Ofcourse this emotion from his trusted and loyal subordinate means something to him, pushing him towards the realization later on.

Radhaji
For some reason, the CVs have made changes in the make-up for Radhaji. Her earrings are changed and much more beautiful. But at the same time, they have darkened the hollows of her eyes. The overall effect is of a withered woman. Is this intentional ? I am not sure. But I who always think of her as dramatist's spokesperson and also a mother who may guide her son with mere hovering around him (as she is also Rishabh Kundra's conscience), I see her withered as a mother broken by guilt of her son towards a woman, a mother broken by the hurt her son has embedded into his soul with that act. Will Rishabh rise above his issues and see where his mother is headed to ? I wish he sees. He still is able to speak truth to his mother, is able to be him before her as always without being caustic, infact allows her to have tiny-miny pleasures around him like folding his sleeves. 
But that Radhaji today made a statement (as given to Bittuji -read Viewer) ..."Let Rishabh Go. Let him see from his own eyes, if Madhu has really moved on. If yes, then Rishabh too has to move on. If not, let him come back with acceptance of his guilt in his heart"...was classic.
Because...if you all remember, this is what I have been saying since Saturday. The guy needs to accept before he can move on or he can thing of wooing her back.  Just that Radhaji told me calmly (which I had already made peace with) that let his jealousy/irrational hold on Madhu; get the better of him, but atleast it shall lead him to his truth, which is the most important thing to be had at this point.

Dipali
Today, she was being controlled by Sikky, whenever she was trying to get closer to RK. Was fun to watch her. And thanks to her, Rishabh Kundra got to know about Sultan and Aryan's place in Madhu's life now. Through Dipali's interaction, we the viewers know that Rishabh Kundra's conscious is still working, it is able to remember, relate to everything back and forth at what Dipali was saying. Dips is amazed that RK knows about Sultan, but personally it was a cute scene for me, first time in MEIEJ that she was revelling in the fact that she was the one giving out coveted news to RK...Aaakhir kuch toh RK ke kaam aayi...Uski zindagi dhanya ho gayi.  Should be help to her to advance Sikky's position when bargaining with RK later on. It was nice touch when she asked RK to say "OUTT" and he didn't and instead that "OUTT" was given to Bittuji. 

Dips and Sikky
Loved their scenes. No impostion, but naturally blending into the story.

Padmini 
Looking Sexy mother as always, with her supermodel types straight pose.

Bhujang
It was hilarious to watch him, his pooja, listen to his dialogues and the way he displays the plate of tamanchas...reminded me of Balraj. LOL.

Sultan
Why he is getting so interested in Madhu is beyond my understanding.  Don't even doubt my heart. It is always able to see the fire. Its too clunky.  Sultan has come to India to have his son see Holi, so obviously he remembers his wife, he has been mortally wounded by Bhujang, his empire is toppled and he is on the run...how does Madhu fit into all of this so soon...as Aryan's care-taker in his absence, to fill the void in Aryan's life ???!!! I would have believed him thinking of that possible requirement from his side due to the dangers he is in...had I been shown even once him thinking of changing power equations, about Bhujang or other things. There needs to be a catalyst other than Aryan for him to think of Madhu. Just plain Wet hair and her asking him to bring back colors into his life is too soon for him to start pining for her.  Yes, Bhais are supposed to make quick selections of their damsels, but quickness is impressed through the dangers they are in. One month over, I have hardly seen him at his work.

Rishabh Kundra
Finally the sane man is back...just the way he was on Unwedding night. Wihout drinking and sinking everything in. That time he let his revenge sink into his soul and what carnage it will do to him. Now this time, Madhu's moving on, entry of Sultan and his Son into her life, he let all that sink in, he is able to connect how he let that happen and he thinks that may he can just reverse all that...yet again.
This guy...like his mother said, needs to accept that he has to let go of Madhu first. Respect your actions first...Revenge==> Wedding for revenge ==> Unwedding to complete revenge ==>Realization that he is passionate about her and needs her in his life ==> reversal of Unwedding...How dumb its gonna get ? 
My advice to you Rishabh Kundra, just let the chapter of Revenge game be completed with Unwedding. Make a fresh start with your love...totally untainted from previous wedding/unnwedding. Win her in the right manner.
Whatever his state of mind is, I am liking the fact that he still bonds with his mother, lovingly ; she is the only one with him now in true sense, he is trying to trust Bittuji, though he knows Bji can no longer be trusted, is careful with Dipali and yet not ignoring her. [clapping] Overall, his brains cells are back.

Madhu-Aryan-Kaaka
Total Filler material in today's episode. They were the essential props to the episode. 

Here's my toast.  
Cheers !!! for a good episode after a long long time.
Et all,
And the thread...wow...After yesterday's mood, understanding of disgust, regulated by Forum Mods and slapped with new rules...its like the rise of Sensex after the bearish trend witnessed so long. 

Originally posted by Soundarya22

Am confused about RK (SD- If you could help)
he was furious when he found out about Sultan's incident at the studio. he looked pained, when he thought of what he did. If A + B = C, is A =C??? Has he realised what he's done, or  is he  terrified that he will lose Madhu to Sultan?? 
Next morning, he seems determined to do what..he wants to establish territorial rights over Madhu or he really wants to woo her back?? Woo her back, sounds too much too soon. Smelling a TRP rat


Sounds,

RK was able to draw the inference that Aryan means a lot to Sultan, so much that he came to break his car windscreen the next day when he snatched Madhu's phone. Basically through the studio incident narrated by Dips, the information he had elicited out of Madhu, his knowing of Sultan briefly, he could piece all of it that Madhu is actually not after Sultan, but is after Aryan. And that for Sultan, his everything means Aryan. So Rishabh Kundra's dream came true.

Madhu is hynotised by something (Aryan-Sultan's son). Rishabh Kundra is trying to stop Madhu leaving him, he is challenging Sultan, Sultan is ready to kill him.  So ...he has inferred, that if Madhu and Aryan bond together then for the sake of his son, Sultan can kill him if he tried to take away Madhu from him-Aryan hurting his son.  And this is where Rishabh thinks that he needs to reverse unwedding with Madhu, so that he can put an end to her moving on with Aryan and Sultan.

This is all hazy, and is getting a shape in his mind, subconscious/conscious everywhere...he now just needs proofs ...he needs to see in real...tangible shape to his comprehension.

Did it help you now ?

Originally posted by Soundarya22
Perfect!!! Thank you. This kind of brings out my latent fear about the track itself. It is not about madhu and Sultan at all. The danger is Aryan -madhu, she will do anything for that little kid. And if it means getting on with his gangster father, she will...there, I've said it. RK feels the same...acc to you. 

Let me give you hope then 

Per the dream, when Sultan attacks Rishabh, Madhu yells RK. 
So she won't be able to see Rishabh in mortal danger and that sight will have Sultan relent about his wish...and who knows where all this gung-ho will lead to ?

Originally posted by _charu_
that was brilliant Shri.. connecting the dots..his dream was disturbing..although it's weird that he dreamt all this the night he saw those aqua eyes ..wasn't it quick? and if CV's follow the same route, his dream was precise  

Charu,
In reality, for super-sensitive people like Rishabh Kundra, it is not difficult to have those dreams. They get the vibes from the situation. 

That night, Madhu ignored him to the core, she showed the first signs of moving on...when she did not answer his concerned questions...when just during day time shooting (outdoor-Dips falling-MAdhu staring session-her observing him), she was very much into him.  So what could have happened overnight that she looked so different now...hence the hynotic look of Madhu in his dream...then where was the source ? Source was the Two Eyed Man. And he himself could not ignore the Blue eyed man, he felt his power and hence his insecurity showed that he can be easily killed by him.  Very true and possible dream for sensitive soul.

Originally posted by ennishet
Thank you so much for this explanation, SD. I visit this thread especially for your posts, including some of the other writers who come up with brilliant (and funny) reviews.Please, never think about discontinuing this thread.


MM's Corner -Originally posted by MarathiMulgi
When I saw Madhu applying gulal to our adoring Aryan, an image of Yashoda maiyya with Krishna Kanahiyya flashed in my mind and the following lines came together. Sorry I am still at that stage where poetry is  just match the words (like kanhaiyya and maiyya).


Poem for Madhu's obsession with Aryan.

Kaun hai yeh nanha rajkuvar jo mere dil ko itna bha gaya hai
subah shyam use dekhne, use chahne mera dil machal raha hai
kahan se aya itna pyar mere dil mein jo is per mein nichawar karun
maa ki mamata ki chaddar jaise is dulare per mein oodhe rakhun
kis janam ka nata hai tuzse mera o mere krishan kanhaiya
kyun mera mann bar bar chahe ki mein ban jau is ki maiyya

Pnars Poem - Page 2
Originally posted by pnars

Dear MEIEJ,

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
Of your glorious wild insanities -
The spoilt brat of a superstar
Who sets the screen ablaze as he declares war
On the handsome goon
Who's all set to moon
On the comely lass
Who's, by the way, the craziest in this class,
She's using a little boy as a band-aid
To cover the giant wound the superstar made!
After them all is Evil Personified
Bhujang who left the Pandit terrified
He wants to celebrate Holi with blood
And leave Sultan gasping in the mud.
But leave all that aside
'cause we have the Emperor making the ride
Across town to claim as his own
His biwi
'cause 'Lat lag gayi'!
It's immaterial
Whether she agrees at all
'cause as a pair they're smoking hot
As proof witness the pre-cap shot..

(With apologies to Elizabeth Barrett Browning; and thanks to ST sir and crew for a rip-roaring episode tonight.)


Syl's - Pictorial Commentary


Originally posted by undisclosed

The Flame has returned ...with all of his baggage...and sets his agenda in order...its Hero on the bull's eye...her first for all things he is determined to be...Thunder lowers his guard as he is softened by Hero...forgetting that he is not free to frolic...with out much of a clue that there are serpents amidst...For Hero there is nothing but fireworks all around...taking the form of color and sound...

(those colors are about to explode everyone...stay tuned)

Fireworks at Disneyland

SD (to explain; for the uninitiated ones into the episode)
Thunder=Sultan
Flame = RK
Hero = Madhu

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Other Reviews

By zoya_naziya
After a very long time, I enjoyed the entire episode...

RK: *keeping fingers crossed*Hopefully moving in the right direction... You have displayed today that your brain cells are in perfect working conditions... Don't lose it tomorrow... Am happy that he got  flashbacks of all the untoward, unpleasant  memories starting from the unwedding drama and the way i see it, hopefully he has pieced everything along with the info received from Dipzy.. Wish after the show-down tomorrow, he behaves in the most dignified manner expected from him...The woh lamhe song was perfect for him:)

Madhu: Well, she did the right thing, shutting the windows when looking at RK's poster...

Sultan: Only one thing to say "yeh toh hona hi tha"

Radhaji: Totally loved her today... The best thing that happened in today's epi after RK's retrospection..Yet again, the thing she told to Bittuji that RK needs to see Madhu has moved on for him to move ahead in life, be it in gathering his life back or realizing his mistakes..

Bittuji: He was the biggest let-down today... He should have told everything honestly to his chief... RK  knew that he was hiding and that it was unpleasant information for him... What was his motive? Protecting Madhu from his chief? jab karna tha tab kuch kiya nahi...ab aa gaye... When he went to Malik's house, like an idiot he blurted out that Chief sent him and now he is keeping the truth from his chief...For a change, Bittuji ko OUT bola gaya...

Dipzy- Doesn't mince words..Seedhi baat no bakwaas... good..I like it..

Sikky: Loved him and his comic antics:)

DD and VD both were looking good... Padmini was looking kickass as well. She was hardly looking like Madhu's mom...

Trish is missing is it?

Finally RK mansion ke dharamshaala pe taala lag gaya kya? Radhaji and Bittuji were knocking on his door and RK opened the door to let them in :))

Originally posted by MarathiMulgi
Holi toh RK ke dil mein lagi hai. What is burning in it is the regret, of how he behaved towards Madhu so far, of the fear that he may indeed lose Madhu to Sultan due to his sheer stupidity and idiocy. What should also burn in this Holi is his EGO - big time.  What should arise from this aag is his determination to win Madhu back the right way.

MM,
Loved how you put that. Yes, it was night of Holika Dahan and RK made a full introspection on all the information he had with regards to his passions, his gains and his losses.
Yes something bad has to be burnt and it is happening.

Last year, during Ganesh Visarjan, we had realized how it was Rishabh Kundra's visarjan of "sense of loss and faith in Ganesha". He was new Rishabh from that point, he was able to make peace with both his father and Ganesha...a much needed balance in his life.

I called it then a watershed movement. Pasting the link here.


The writers here dramatize the festive concepts with core meanings in place. Be it Ganesh Visarjan, be it Karva Chouth  and Holika-Dahan & Holi

I myself like festivals in its nativity spirit. Something starts moving me...all the people around me...the sounds, the activity and strangely I am in a trance even if i am participating or not. I so accept the festive principle...without any questions...tremendous amount of faith flows in and I am just happy with all the others. Its like Godbole of "The Passage to India" 

Once in the hostel days, on Shivratri afternoon...with nothing to do...dozing off the reading material on my bed...in all the eerie quiet...I imagined a well ; and a huge, fat, humungous like beyond anaconda size cobra...the cobra like kaa was soring high and high and high and finally its hood opened and it hissed.  I woke up.

When I narrated to my mom over phone, she said, the Shiv-ratri spirit got into you. I said, but I was not even praying and everthing was so calm around me ...all alienated, she said...that's why you dreamt. 

ETA: Hima, Zoya...Memories for us.  
I see that the Oct 11th thread, had lot of my views on RK's character which still holds the love story together, including the revenge. 

By dramacrazy12
A build-up episode...
There were several things that stood out to me in terms of characters
1) Sultan: I am appropriately intrigued by his reaction to Madhu. He apparently loved his wife immensely and seems to retain some sense of guilt over her death...on a Holi day (maybe a car chase due to gang war). He moved abroad after winning the war for the safety of his son and has been back only recently. I kept thinking that he sees some image of his wife in Madhu and he is attracted to her sunny attitude. However he is aware of RK's feelings for Madhu ...and the pain RK is going through (does he identify with it?). He has promised Padmini that there will be no drama in chawl due to him...a promise that he intends to stick to. While he seems to have started to open up to Madhu...the moment he realizes that he has put Madhu in danger...the past memories will come crashing back and he will withdraw. I see him take on more a role of guardian angel rather than romantic interest atleast for near future. Though he might continue to feel attracted to her.
2)RK: RK wants Madhu back in his possession...he seemed to try and reconcile Dips version of studio story to what Madhu had told him and so far everything seems to tie up. However this does not reduce his disquiet at the thought of losing her...there is immense confusion as to how she relates to Sultan.. I think he is still unable to understand how Madhu could walk away from him so easily...what he does not know is that Madhu has not moved on but rather shut herself from his memories. The pain is still festering in her. I am beginning to sense some feeling of shame and regret in him as he thought of his unwedding however I am am not convinced that his regret is for the right reasons yet. He realized that he cut her loose at his unwedding and severed any bond between them effectively giving her permission to pursue relationship with other guys. He was convinced that Madhu would never move on but she seems to have moved on thus rendering his entire gameplan kaput. He decides to go and check out the lay of the land and at the same time remind everyone and her that he still stakes his claim on her. What better way to do than go and play Holi and be the first one to put color on her? Dare I hope that the preview is real? If he does see her with Sultan and walks away...he will burn in personal hell of jealousy and regret but he will also suspect her love for him ...to me this does not add anything to the storyline. I would rather that he sees that she still loves him but is immensely attached to the kid and then finds her harmed which leaves him bereft and guilty of his past actions wanting to make up for them.
3)Madhu: I have said all I can say on her pigheadedness and air of superiority and innocence. I don't see her harbouring any feelings for Sultan other than compassion and pity. She seems to believe he can be a better person and father and has made it her next project. Her attachment to Aryan is odd but on the other hand she probably sees a lot of herself and RK in him. She sees a physically challenged kid being pushed to his limits in order to win his father's approval. She sees a child yearning for his father's love much like RK. On the other hand Aryan does take her mind off RK and she does not have to deal with her feelings for him. She still sees RK as egoist as shown by the way she keeps seeing ahankar poster...however in last episode...the "Ahankar" seems to be fractured by branches when Madhu looks at it. I have an odd feeling that she will jump in fray to either protect Aryan or RK when Bhujang lands and will get injured in the process...I am still waiting to see how she justifies her association to underworld kingpin to all and sundry.
In all we are at crossroads and I waiting to see where CVs take it next.

By apolloartemis
Echoing what a lot of people are saying today- an episode that made me go back and watch it again- first time in awhile!
RK's reactions are quiet telling- the little crease of pain/guilt on his brow as he recalls all those memories, his assertion that he will be the first one to put color on Madhu...the former shows how his realizations have pervaded his conscious (enabling him to recognize his feelings without the help of alcohol) and the latter shows that he's still a little out of touch with reality- after everything that has happened, why would Madhu allow him to put color on her?
Madhu too was a delight to watch. Without people around her, for whom she has to don a mask, she is still heavily affected by RK. I wish we had had some flashbacks to gauge what her state of mind right now is  but the CV's seem intent on making her a cipher. She remains devoted to Aryan, which I maintain is partly a reaction to her running away from her emotional wounds given by RK.
Sultan- don't know if its love or attraction, but the man is quiet cheap if he gives away his heart after a few bhashans and jhoota food. Speaking of which, how come neither Bittuji or RK connect this Sultan with extortion Sultan? Is the name really that common?
Pretty sure the precap is a dream...

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