Friday, March 29, 2013

Episode 231 Discussion: 28th March 2013

"You are not Aryan's mother" Says Who?  Says Padmini to Madhu.

Events of the Episode
Sultan, Madhu, Kaaka and Aryan escape the goons. Madhu hides them in Roma's Apt (to be revealed in the middle of the episode). Madhu reaches home and effectively silences Trishna and her mom by cutting them off when they ask of her where she went. She mentions she is hungry. Padmini feeds her. When Trishna and Padmini attempt to make a conversation of where she went, about Sultan and where is Aryan, Madhu keeps avoiding their questions and gets up from the table. Trishna wants to go to Roma's Apt to practice her script. Madhu pleads her not to go. Later into night Madhu takes food and milk downstairs to offer to Sultan. Trishna follows her and is aghast to see Sultan there. Madhu requests Trishna to avoid telling their mother. As Trishna agrees, Padmini walks in. Understands what's going on. She is upset and goes to their Apt in anger. When Trishna and Madhu walk in, Padmini chides Madhu into repeatedly breaking her trust and acting crazy in emotion. She tells Madhu that she is not Aryan's mother to be so overly concerned about the kid. She also Madhu she cannot start helping people at random and if she knows anything else about Sultan, other than the fact he is father of Aryan and if she has forgotten that Sultan is a gangster. Sultan who has followed them intervenes and his side of story where new information is that Sultan does not have a surname, doesn't know his father, whose mother died when he was 8 and that his wife does nkt live with him anymore. That he came from Dubai to settle some old scores. That he shall leave from Chawl at the first opportunity and that he is indebted to her daughter Madhu for saving his life.

Episode Reviews.

Mine-SD - Take1
First my cringing at the lack of hygenic sense.

Madhu is in the same clothes since last 36 hours, been working herself in surgery, cooking, shopping, escaping, running etc etc...and yet she comes to the table and eats her supper in same clothes. And did Padmini not smell her clothes ? May be tiny-meeny bit of sweat and blood ?!!!

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Padmini - Expected. That is just a viewer respite enacted to make the viewer feel better. But Padmini is powerless before Haulon Se Veer Madhu.  Sooner than later, Madhu will be back in business of generating drama. She is ofcourse the plot and Padmini has to support Madhu's madness. Let me remind you.

During Mukund Track...Padmini reprimanded Madhu. Asked her, point-blank...if she feels anything for Mukund which may have become the reason for her "seva-giri" of Mukund. Madhu at that time looked all confused. Then later Padmini said, Mukund would be a good match for her and she can say yes to Mukund.

In RK track...Padmini asked Madhu not to be afraid of RK and break away all hold and later she advised her daughter to become full-fledged wife. At various stages Padmini gave her support and strength to Madhu.

In current track, Padmini has reprimanded Madhu and informed Madhu that she is not the mother of the kid. So guess what, get ready to hear Padmini sooner than later advising Madhu to become the mother as the Child needs one and Madhu loves the kid too.

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Today, I was not upset by RK's forced shot over the screen. That was just a reminder to viewers that RK is not dead and he is alive. So that confusing scene of him recalling  Madhu + Sultan + Himself + Sultan...and we don't know why he is gritting his teeth...may he now recalls that Sultan is a gangster.

Pre-cap
They also forcefully reminded Madhu that RK still exists through that poster. That shot showed us that Madhu has completely forgotten about Superstar RK. She got scared and yet she advanced to see something...what will she see ? Bhujang's men or RK's men or Sultan leaving ?

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Madhu looks hurt that her mother told her that she is not the mother of the kid. Atleast in Mukund track, Madhu looked confused at what her mom insinuated. Now clearly she is hurt that she cannot be mother to Aryan.

Madhu...kya maajhra hai ? Kya chal raha hai tumhaare dimaag mein ? Ab toh batao yaar ??? Its been too much keeping secrets since 6th March. Why that kid has become so obsessively dear to you ? Kuch toh khulaasa karo ?!!!!  Or you want us viewers to stalk you like RK in getting the answer from you..."Aakhir kya lagta hai Aryan tumhaara ?"

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Episode Take 2
After watching EP 231, I had only idea stamped on my mind.

When Sultan will try to leave Chawl with Ayran and Kaaka, how Madhu will folllow them and say, "Leave Aryan here with me as its not safe for him to be with you."

Imagine the expressions Sultan might give. 

It would be heights of craziness...but this is where it is headed.  Its very clear that Madhu is heading for nervous breakdown. Something close to her heart was snatched and now she is trying to snatch something from someone for something that makes her heart work.

She is being unreasonable and she would have to actually cry relentlessly for Sultan taking Aryan away and at the same time her family support her to cry out her pain...Until she cries her hearts-fill, she will not be reasonable.  Hope Madhu gets to cry...and not just act strong with that nerve-wrecking facade of hers.

She has tried to move on in a way that is only being detrimental to her.  But will the viewers perceive this ?


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Others - Padmini, Sultanbala and Aryanbala

Originally posted by minu_8

So now.. Sultan, aryan, kaka are in the middle and madhu is alone on one side supporting them and everyone else padmini,trishna,rk and us viewers everyone is on the other side against her.. we r expecting this track to end on a disastrous note with madhu's idiotic behavior to put her family or herself or rk in some big danger... I am telling u this is NOT going to happen.. She herself may well fall in some danger but the track is not going to culminate with madhu being proved as an utter fool for helping aryan, sultan... Based on my experience of watching all idiotic indian tv shows when i was younger and stupider... the writers wil vindicate madhu at the end.. whether viewers admit the contrived and convoluted way they will do this or not she wil be vindicated.. so at the end all the character in the serial who were against her wil bow down to her and hail madhu the angel.. this is what happens in EVERY show.. they have shown her recently being fooled by rk for good 6 months.. they r not going to again show her trust a wrong man..
My guess is... madhu will be fall in some mortal danger due to bhujang or something else. sultan may repay his karz by saving her... rk's ugly stalking behavior may directly or indirectly harm her.. atleast it wont help her... I think she may even be mortally injured.. that is when maybe it wil hit rk... so this track might end with RK's realisation and admitting to himself tat he loves madhu.. so his ugly behavior might continue till then and he may even sink lower and hit his lowest when the end of track nears.. that is why i couldnt enjoy padmini's BBB of madhu bcos she was just voicing what we al say... 
I hope I am wrong.. and writers indeed show madhu made a mistake... I am willing to chant houslon se veer if needed..

Precap: I think its not RK down the stairs but madhu wil go and talk to sultan and it will be sultan's dukhbhari ram kahani tomorrow? Then why emphasize RK's poster soo much??? Jo baat sultan aur madhu mein nahin wo RK ki tasveer mein bhi hain 
Originally posted by SD
Minu, You have voiced my thoughts. That's what I felt.

Plus, I will also add that...more and more Sulbala will happen, so that Madhu can realize if she actually loved/loves/hates RK.

Those two bolded portions...Superb. [Clapping]

Originally posted by minu_8
Thanks SD.
And Yes, I too want answers to why she loved rk, if she stil loves/hates him.. or was everything borne out of sympathy..

Originally posted by _charu_

Minu, i fully agree with you...[Clapping] Soundarya pointed out the same in META discussion that in BV, at the end of every track, Anandi comes out to be mahan and rest everyone a duffer...i just hope this is not repeated with Madhu bec. where will this lead her to??? association with Sultan i mean?? at most Sultan will be reformed and they will be married? that's a distant possibility but does she really have a future with Sultan? as long as they don't turn the story around and develop it as a tribute to Monica bedi or Mandakini. Sultan will only complicate RK Madhu equation (if police and Bhujang forget that Sultan is alive)...RK will be further catalyst in it..uska dimag jo kharab hai..Madhu will dig a deeper grave for herself meanwhile in reaction to RK's foolishness... lets watch out who comes out of this loop first..

Originally posted by minu_8
I dont know where her association with sultan wil lead... if the CVs dont know how to get themselves out of the mess they r in then there is always sultan dying saving madhu and then madhu can actually become aryan's mom.. bcos otherwise will they take the route of sultubala?? the trps are already declining.. do the makers have the guts to go all the way with that couple???

What i am thinking is... If in coming episodes if they show RK more and more suspecting madhu to be carrying on an affair with sultan and even voices that to her then it maybe sure there wont be anything between the 2.. just madhu sudrofying him and sultan indebted to her fr all that she has done for them.. they have to make RK look that much more guilty for even suspecting madhu mata's intentions..

i have reached a state where I DONT want rk-madhu for a long time now.. If at al they get back together  it shud be without the baggage of 1st revenge, 2nd revenge, 40 laks contract etc etc... Only of they WANT to be with each other and no... i trusted u even if u betrayed me conflicts every now and then... 

Originally posted by pnars

I can't identify with the current Madhu one bit. The brave girl who reported a superstar to the police for drunk driving and an accident is now harbouring a gangster (who either killed or maimed many people right in front of her in the jungle) in her home, all because she loves his cute son...??!!! 


Originally posted by minu_8
You know i was watching that first meeting between Rk-Madhu on the bridge today morning. Madhu's charactcer and words ring soo hollow... She now doesnt give a  damn that sultan is a criminal and CVs are taking Aryan's excuse to justify her doing this.. her immediate sme aryan ki koi galati nahin hai"when trishna comes... How lame... then.. when she sent RK  to jail... tab radhaji ki galati thi kya? when mukund's family was willing to close the case she didnt let them... she was hell bent on punishing RK... I have never much liked madhu.. even though i have never condoned what RK did with her... i usually never relate to tv heroines.. but the current madhu is unbearablle...

On the other hand wasnt that scene fantastic.. RK's non verbal reactions to her bhashan is sooo hilarious... what a way to tai tai phus her bhashan baazi.. the way he says "continue" and idiot madhu.. what does she do?? obviously "continues"her speech 

Originally posted by _charu_
and for the rest, you're forgetting dear ke abhi RK is there b/w her and Sultan. Lol anyhow, if this is what CV's are planning, i'm out as well...naya ishq (Sultan) naya junoon(Aryan), nayi narfat (RK) milke banayenge Madhubala AHAAN ? toh  ST & Co. will be the only audience ! 

Originally posted by pnars
Thanks Charu for trying to cheer me up. But our dear Rascally Kameena seems to be stuck in the middle of some street or garden in Amreeka and can't do anything but grimace and sneer from there. This foolish girl is going crazier by the day in his absence.

Rogue Khalnayak, please come soon and save our damsel in stress!

ETA: Re: Aryanbala, this is why I don't like using kids in romance stories. You turn a sizzling romance into a tame diaper changing, milk-pilaoing affair... we're all maternal in real life, can't we escape all that kiddie heartstring pulling in our fantasy romance at least?!


Responded by Minu_8 to my post

Me in Blue

Minu in Red


When Sultan will try to leave Chawl with Ayran and Kaaka, how Madhu will folllow them and say, "Leave Aryan here with me as its not safe for him to be with you."

Whats scaring me is that this is very very possible. Madhu shows all the signs of really doing this. I am imagining her expression while saying this.

It would be heights of craziness...but this is where it is headed.  Its very clear that Madhu is heading for nervous breakdown. Something close to her heart was snatched and now she is trying to snatch something from someone for something that makes her heart work.

She is being unreasonable and she would have to actually cry relentlessly for Sultan taking Aryan away and at the same time her family support her to cry out her pain...Until she cries her hearts-fill, she will not be reasonable.  Hope Madhu gets to cry...and not just act strong with that nerve-wrecking facade of hers.

She has tried to move on in a way that is only being detrimental to her.  But will the viewers perceive this ?

I understand this is how she has chosen to move on which is not really moving on actually.. But her obsession or fixation with a 5 year old even if its motherly makes me uncomfortable. I dont think padmini or anyone can do anything right now to curb this obsession.. That will only make madhu rebelllious.. But I just dont like it..

Because this obsession is so unhealthy I want to writers to prove madhu wrong here unlike other serials where always the heroine is proved right. for all her pretense at good intentions she is not doing this for aryan's good. thats only an excuse. 

Agree with you Minu_8 over the add-points towards plot construct.

I am mentally giving a new name to this upcoming track in April.

"The Custody Battle for Aryan" - between Sultan and Madhu.  

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Syl's Pictorial Commentary
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and the plot thickens...du du dun *007 music in bg*...
Mission Impossimouse

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