Episode 145 Discussion: 13th Dec 2012

Madhu: Mujhe chot pahunchane main Mazaa aata hai na Tumhe

RK: Pagalon ki tarah pyaar karta hoon main Tumhe

Episode 145  Discussion: 13th Dec 2012

Episode Events

1. RK calls up Bittuji and informs that he is at Karjat Farmhouse and staying there for few days and that Madhu be sent to Farmhouse the next day. Madhu decides to set off towards the Farmhouse same night as she wants to take RK's class for his errant behaviour. At Chawl, Padmini informs everyone that RK's whereabouts are now known and that Madhu is also joining him. Trishna yaps  her "I lost everything because of Madhu". 
2. Madhu's car breaks down as they approach the Farmhouse, just 100 feet away. The driver leaves her there to get a mechanic. Nearby in another farmhouse, a wedding is going on. RK gets an inkling of Madhu somewhere near the Farmhouse (when Madhu actually starts getting scared standing in the dark), gets dressed up and  walks in her direction. Madhu too senses that RK is nearby when he approaches her from behind. Both are not surprised to see each other, but surprised to know that the other knew that he/she was there.
3. Madhu gets back into her angry mood and starts asking him, why he didn't call, what was he doing in the Farmhouse, why he did not show up for lunch. RK avoids all her questions and instead starts checking the car for whatever that went wrong. He hurts his hand and Madhu all concerned ties the cut on his hand with her dupatta. RK likes that gesture from Madhu very much, however he remembers Dipali's words and walks away from Madhu. Madhu follows him and asks hims what happened. He asks her not to concern herself. And he asks what she is doing here when he asked her to come tomorrow. Madhu all angry answers that she wanted to see him if he doing well and that she wanted to disobey him in all anger. RK smiles at Madhu's answer. Madhu deeply hurt at his smile, asks RK why he likes so much to torment her, and why he treats everything as joke. RK then says no, nothing of those deliberate hurts are jokes. But what is a joke is that have a soulmate connection inspite of them being equally mad with each other and that he loves her madly of all the crores of girls that could have fallen for him.

My Take

Feel good episode with few minutes of repetition at RK Mansion to give us an uninterrupted trip to Rishbala Land. Would give an A. I liked it with good mix of all elements. The undercurrents, the action and the sublimation...everything was present. The use of flashback technique was good again as it hints the viewers who is the person we are seeing, Rishabh or RK.

Best scene was Madhu's confronting RK. She was angry and yet her anger had so much love. And she was so humble in her quest for answers. She was confronting the man she married, who is a flux of Rishabh and RK, who is confusing to her because he is the "tedha". And yet, she dealt with him the way she knows him. Him liking to push her buttons so that he gets all the pleasure. My heart really went out to her. And somehere even RK melted. But then the Rishabh inside him would not relent and not let RK soften. He goaded RK with the flashback scene of negativity that Madhu might just love the man she sees in front of her, who is nothing but RK ...she might have no inkling of what Rishabh is and if she can love him. Goaded by Rishabh, RK starts answering Madhu. Out comes his RK confession. The superstar who could have loved anyone of the one crore of girls of his age, but he fell for Madhu.

Though Rishabh exerted his will over RK today and made him protect him in by not answering to Madhu's questions, Rishabh could not fail to see that inspite of himself, he was being pulled by cosmic forces. The instincts, the telepathy everything worked and he was drawn to the spot where Madhu was stranded. If he feels that he is jinxed and that he cannot find love, then Rishabh will you see, that the same external forces are colluding against you and bringing you closer to Madhu ? If you plan A for yourself and Madhu, the universe will backfire your plan with plan B with Madhu as its executor for you and herself. Rishabh is realizing this impasse for him. And yet he goads RK to do something about it.

The confession ofcourse did not look forced or against his wishes. RK merely stated the anomaly of the situation that he and Madhu are in. Looked nothing but factual, just like the way he proposed his marriage to be a "Kismet Konnection" and it needs to be honored, he once again confesses his love with all the understanding that there are forces beyong his control that make him love her, that make her feel something for him. An aside. For me his marriage proposal is epic and historic and it always stays with me. It was that deep inspite of it being so simple and a flat statement. I still remember how he was waiting for her answer in trepidation, hoping that she will not reject it. RK through this weave of involving conspiring elements from the cosmos, almost mesmerizes Madhu to believe that indeed it is something that they cannot help themselves with. They have no choice left other than to love each other unto madness.

Nice playing Mr.Rishabh Kundra. So far so good. Just wait and watch. You already know Madhubala Kundra is not that docile. Will she take your bait ? Your invitation to madness ? Are you waiting in trepidation, how she will respond to this? You want her love. You know she loves you. You want her devotion. You know she is devoted to you. Yet that fear of losing it all is driving you crazy that you want her to commit to you, promise you her love, seal a pact of no return. Do you think that she will sign that pact ?

How would a girl a react to this kind of confession? Of course, she is going to be dazed. Where did it come from? So...if he loves her unto madness, is it still an excuse to hurt her, to be not answered to? Does she deserve the evasive answers? Fine she bound herself in marriage to Rishabh Kundra to protect her father. Would Madhu commit her love, her devotion to a man just because he is her husband or the man who claims to love her and yet does not turn up to a luncheon with her mother, throws away the food all in anger ? How is even the universe and their conspiring elements linked to this love ? But there it is. She loves him. Yes she loves him to madness. May be not the same reasons as his, but just like him she too loves him for her own reasons.

The precap

If there is indeed a kiss, which almost seems to be a one that is happening...

Its the seal towards path of no return. Like the territorial acquisition for Rishabh Kundra. Yes, there is passion and desire acting out, but the force that it is driving it is the need to claim her as his. Rishabh made RK claim Madhu. Sealing their fate in the kiss. And if that indeed happens, for Madhu it all about the seal of devotion and sacrifice towards RK. Its the territorial acceptance for her.

Others takes:

By Tanu

A Beautiful Episode. Hats off to everyone involved in bringing the scene alive on screen… the actors, the writers, music and the director! It was sheer brilliance.

Was I the only one who thought RK already knew that his wife will show up the same night? It felt like it was a reaffirmation of his belief in her… he knew she will come because she cared, she was angry and more importantly couldn't stay away from him. Why else will he ask her to come the next day… it simply doesn't make sense. If he wanted to be away from her, why call her at all….and if he has made up his mind to have her with him when he is away then why wait the night out?

RK's admission of their love was so different from so many other confessions I have seen. It had the RK element in it… his trademark sincerity laced with sarcasm/irony. I loved how he took the first opportunity to speak out his emotions… emotions he is insecure about. You need a lot of guts to admit his love especially after what he has been through, throughout the day  and RK proved he is a braveheart.  That for me is half the battle won. The beauty of the scene was that it didn't come across as if he asking acceptance from Madhu for his love because he didn't intend to… it could be because he knows that she loves him too. There was a sense of calmness in the way admitted his love for her… esp when it is a person as passionate as RK.

What stood out for me was the fact that not only did RK speak for himself, he spoke for Madhu too. He might have snatched his hand away from Madhu when he remembered Dipali's words, but he also had noted that his pain reflected on Madhu's face. The way he matched every little aspect that mirrored eachother's reaction/thought was heartwarming. The mere fact that he has noticed so much about Madhu will help him deal with his insecurities. I had a smile when he said 'main pagal aur tum mujhse bhi badi pagal….' In a strange way it assures him that she is capable of handling someone as difficult as him which means she will not give up on him. It will help him deal with his self-doubt as to whether he deserves the kind of commitment Madhu has for him.  

Another blockbuster up for trow… so will leave the precap scene for trow.

Another interesting moment between Malik and Padmini… will it lead to a more meaningful and a complete relationship? I wish!

Once again… kudos to the team of Madhubala for today's episode.

By apolloartemis

Alright, going step by step: 1) Go Madhu! Grab Diputz's arm! Next step, twist- and if you do that to her neck as well I'd be eternally grateful. Okay all kidding aside- I love the whole Madhu growing with regards to handling Diputz. Whatever happens between RIshbala I hope this aspect does not dissapear- Madhu should either always have the upper hand, or be on an even keel- that is what makes their interactions fun. Her standing silent, tears in her eyes while Diputz gloats is not something I want to see again. So here's hoping. 2) Trishna continued to show biodad's characterisitcs today with abomb- it's all about her- I noticed the telling hint among her rants: Madhu got a husband, and what a husband- superstar RK! So that whole "RK is just doing to get revenge on you" was mostly an attack on Madhu's weakness- not that I had any doubts about that- but good to know that it was not just about the heroine dream that Madhu "snatched" away. The guy is also part of the package. That said, I do not think Trishna will have anything to do with Balraj or his entry. We should remember that she is incredibly scared of him and for a good reason- he will have no cause to spare her if he realizes who Trishna is- before Padmini ran he was trying to indirectly kill her several times, so, no, I don't think Trishna is so far gone. I also liked the Malik/Padmini interactions- the hand on the shoulder, and the nonverbal communication between them was great- showed how they understood each other, even though they had no formal relationship.

Now, on to Madhu/RK: I want to make one thing clear- I honestly don't think anything RK said today was an act or a deliberate manipulation to get a reaction out of Madhu. He was not happy about any of his confession- infact he looked like he was being dragged to the gallows, not confessing to his lady love. Poor Madhu! What a complex man you have chosen to love!

Another thing: No matter what happens ahead, and no matter even if RK is dissapointed- he is now aware of the strength of the bond between him and Madhu. He even articulates it clearly- even when they are far from each other, they can sense each other, even when Madhu does things to defy him, she always places his well being above everything else. He's aware of the currents between them and what they mean. Whether in his mind, she loves RK or Rishab, he cannot deny that Madhu loves her husband. Now, the question is what does she love more: his trappings? Or him? We know that Madhu does not give a fig for RK's superstar status. RK has to find out and whatever misunderstandings happen, he cannot let Madhu go.

Remember what he said yesterday? I will not lose this time. In that sentence, where is Madhu's choice to love him or not? She has none. He wanted to prepare for her arrival, set his trap so to speak, but she prempted that- Bittuji did not call him and say "Yo, Chief! Bhabiji is coming!" RK sensed her. And more importantly, he realized that she sensed him. Whatever the connection between them, whatever the misunderstandings, he's going to keep her in front of him. He can't do anything else.

From Madhu's side, it was so evident how much RK has a sway over her, and how uncertain she is of her place in his life. Again and again she told him "It's all just a joke to you- you hurt me again and again, and you laugh at my pain." Lets remember that it was not so long ago that he was tormenting her regularly, and however much she loves him and understands him, those scars don't just go away. Indeed, seeing her today, we see how aware she is of what type of person he can be, and how afraid she is that its still just a game to him. I stand in awe of Madhu's strength. Today we saw all her doubts, all her uncertainties. And today we saw that she chose to love him anyway. She chose to fall for RK all the way, anyway. It's unhealthy. It's sad for her because he has the emotional maturity of a toddler. But its there. And its the strongest bond she will ever have- the source of her greatest torment, and the source of her greatest happiness.

So, in short? RK and Madhu: always together, always in each other's thoughts- whatever else happens in the near-term, atleast we can take comfort in that. In the end, all they will ever want is each other. And that's the way it should be.

Also, kudoes to RK for a truely unique confession!

By Gurtiluv

It was destiny that called Madhu into RK's life he never asked her to come. He was just sitting there miserably just like he was today, angry with his destiny. He had everything but nothing gave him peace. It was destiny that called on Madhu to go into RK's life when he didn't ask for her.  Just like to it was destiny that sent her to him. So he can meet his match.  If he was darkness she was his light. If he was crazy she was crazier. She turned his world upside down, taught him how to have faith and hope again. She taught him how to live life again not just go through the motions of life with the help of alcohol to numb your wounds you must heal them just she did today while he was trying to hide them. There were millions of girls crazy after him but destiny sent him the right one. The one he would never have selected himself. The one that would never have chosen to come into his life if destiny hidden written.  Today episode was so symbolic with beautiful camera work to capture the light, Madhu's fear of darkness. How they both come from darkness and step into the light together to lay out their pains and confess their love to one another all very beautiful. Lovely precap! Anyone else alive?

TRISHNA

Originally posted by _charu_

the blood boiling scene of the day, phir se Trishna? ...someone here knows which "sapna" is she talking about since MB started?? and how did it shatter bec. of Madhu? she's been given the same scene in each and every epi? where padmini is getting her married, she was saying the same dialogues..tues bhi aaj bhi..to hell with her crying, balloo plz take her back to the haveli !  did u guys see how Padmini and Malik were normal with each other? aisi family ko set karna hai Madhu ko ..set hi toh hai 

Originally posted by Gurtiluv

five mins into the video, trishna is one whiney baby. everyone loses things you just dont lose hope. Didnt she make some kind of a vow before that she wasnt going to step back into their lives without getting on her feet first? whatever happened to that?

When Trishna started her YAP YAP YAP, Padmini was shedding tears, but then anyone observed how Shamsher actually folded his hands, like..."Now I am listening...YAP all that you want"

When Trishna actually leaves the room, Malik has no intention to follow Trishna out. He is that exasperated with Trishna's non-sensical yapping. But because he doesn't want Padmini to feel awkward at him stopping her so comfortably and that she already was going out, he decides to go for her.

I really wonder what does Madhu have anything here to set it right. And the Balraj curiosity is getting the better of me now that I saw the spolier of him coming to RK Mansion to seek RK and bumping into the studio as RK again. I really can't wait to see him. Gosh! Zutshi was such a cute guy when I first saw him enter acting. And look at him now, he truly looks like the villain. Lol!